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Re: When You Are Depressed, Make Something

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Post by Fnoord »

Alex3917 wrote: post #331
ajkjk wrote: post #254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You weren't gaslighted. That's not what that word means. And everyone here knows how to use google. The problem here is that you said "Depression is the feeling you get from brain inflammation" instead of "there's a theory that depression is sometimes linked to brain inflammation". The former is far from factual, and it's dead wrong to claim it matter-of-factly. Totally not surprisingly, when you google brain inflamm…

> You weren't gaslighted. That's not what that word means. Gaslighting is a form of personal attack that's designed to make someone doubt the validity of their own senses or personal experience. The reason I took yellowapple's comment as gaslighting is that he was calling into question the existence of a large body of research that shows up with even the most trivial Google search. If you don't buy into the cytokine…

> Gaslighting is a form of personal attack that's designed to make someone doubt the validity of their own senses or personal experience.

Asking someone for a source (ie. "citation needed") isn't the same as 'gaslighting'.

There is no need to feel offended when someone asks for a source when you boldly claim something.

Using the website 'lmgtfy' and using this as source however is condescending. Say you are writing a paper. Would you then provide a Google search link as source? You wouldn't. That is why (indirect) Google links are not a source. Google is a tool to find a source.

Re: When You Are Depressed, Make Something

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Post by codezero »

yellowapple wrote: post #189
codezero wrote: post #44

When you are depressed, please try seeing a professional if you have the time/money/insurance coverage. We've made a condition that is largely out of your control a taboo and I don't know why. It's ok to want to be functional, and people can help without pretending like your depression/any other condition isn't real.

"We've made a condition that is largely out of your control a taboo and I don't know why." The reason "why" is (I suspect) because the people who don't understand depression think that it's not out of one's control. Thus, since they don't experience the effects of depression, they insist that people with depression will be magically cured if they just tried to be happy. This approach to curing depression - much like…

> how it's unsurprising for a physically-healthy person to take for granted the ability to use stairs

I broke my arm a year ago and I was surprised to see how much rote behavior I relied on using my left hand for! It was pretty enlightening and I try to think about what I take for granted from time to time.

Re: When You Are Depressed, Make Something

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

Jugurtha wrote: post #355
JoeAltmaier wrote: post #52

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Mozart died at 35 ... of strep.

I'm missing your point. Do you mean he was unlucky not to have lived enough, or to have died of strep? (the 'or' is a boolean 'or', not a colloquial one. i.e: not mutually exclusive).

Just continuing the theme of, "When so-and-so famous person was your age, he was dead"

Re: When You Are Depressed, Make Something

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Post by Jugurtha »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #363
Jugurtha wrote: post #355

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm missing your point. Do you mean he was unlucky not to have lived enough, or to have died of strep? (the 'or' is a boolean 'or', not a colloquial one. i.e: not mutually exclusive).

Just continuing the theme of, "When so-and-so famous person was your age, he was dead"

Hmm, the only death example was Galois. Not sure we can make a theme out of that. Also, I'm not sure: are you 35 and are talking about yourself or something made you think I am?

Re: When You Are Depressed, Make Something

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Post by mildbow »

mustacheemperor wrote: post #354
mildbow wrote: post #322

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What bullshit (the "I feel sad. Well that's life. Kills.. " triggered me :)) Feeling sad is part of life. Dealing with it requires practice. I think people did it a lot better before our age of needing to be happy all the time or worry something was wrong with us.

I don't really grasp how people who have only ever felt sad and have not experienced clinical depression are so quick to assume that only the former exists. Like, if you'd only ever had normal headaches and met someone with cluster headaches, would you just insist to them that their head just hurts and they need to deal with it?

Sorry my comment comes off as "just feel better".

But, as someone who was actually depressed and that due to things that in retrospect don't really matter, I do think that if I had been more resilient I would have had an easier time.

Re: When You Are Depressed, Make Something

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Post by [deleted] »

ajkjk wrote: post #344
Alex3917 wrote: post #331

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You weren't gaslighted. That's not what that word means. Gaslighting is a form of personal attack that's designed to make someone doubt the validity of their own senses or personal experience. The reason I took yellowapple's comment as gaslighting is that he was calling into question the existence of a large body of research that shows up with even the most trivial Google search. If you don't buy into the cytokine…

No one's questioning the claim that research shows there's a connection. You're being rejected because you claimed it was a 100%, if-and-only-if connection. Even if depression is frequently caused by brain inflammation, it is definitely not the case that current science shows depression is always (or always minus epsilon) caused by brain inflammation, so what you said is still wrong. No one's trying to make you quest…

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Re: When You Are Depressed, Make Something

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

Jugurtha wrote: post #364
JoeAltmaier wrote: post #363

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just continuing the theme of, "When so-and-so famous person was your age, he was dead"

Hmm, the only death example was Galois. Not sure we can make a theme out of that. Also, I'm not sure: are you 35 and are talking about yourself or something made you think I am?

I'm adding a synonym to 'pedant' in my online dictionary: 'jugurtha'

Re: When You Are Depressed, Make Something

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Post by Jugurtha »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #367
Jugurtha wrote: post #364

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm, the only death example was Galois. Not sure we can make a theme out of that. Also, I'm not sure: are you 35 and are talking about yourself or something made you think I am?

I'm adding a synonym to 'pedant' in my online dictionary: 'jugurtha'

My replies to your comments were questions to elicit further details because I didn't understand what you meant (maybe an inside joke, maybe a gem hidden in there) and I didn't want to go with assumptions and possibly miss meaning. You called me a pedant for that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jugurtha

Re: When You Are Depressed, Make Something

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Post by yellowapple »

codezero wrote: post #362
yellowapple wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"We've made a condition that is largely out of your control a taboo and I don't know why." The reason "why" is (I suspect) because the people who don't understand depression think that it's not out of one's control. Thus, since they don't experience the effects of depression, they insist that people with depression will be magically cured if they just tried to be happy. This approach to curing depression - much like…

> how it's unsurprising for a physically-healthy person to take for granted the ability to use stairs I broke my arm a year ago and I was surprised to see how much rote behavior I relied on using my left hand for! It was pretty enlightening and I try to think about what I take for granted from time to time.

I had a similar experience when I tore my ACL; I still don't really feel comfortable going down stairs (up is fine for some reason) even after a very successful surgery.

Re: When You Are Depressed, Make Something

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Post by vorotato »

To all the people who are posting "if you are sad" answers, you're wrong, and woefully uninformed. Depression is not sadness. I'm going to repeat this, depression is not sadness. The article is describing a component of cognitive behavioral therapy. Your "opinions" are ignorant, please stop.
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