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Re: Vimperator: a Vim-like Firefox

#51

The idea sounds intriguing, but I fail to see how `:back` is easier or faster than `cmd+LeftArrow` or how `:open url.com` is faster than `cmd+l url.com` or `cmd+t url.com` What is the killer feature here?

Using j and k to scroll is really nice. One of my favorite things is that you can use marks. I'll mark where I am while reading, scroll back to check something, and then jump back to my mark. It's very handy.

How have I used Vimperator for years and not known about mark support?!? Thank you!

Re: Vimperator: a Vim-like Firefox

#53
post #48

I remember using the original keyboard productivity extension for Firefox, "hit-a-hint"[1] back in Firefox 1 & 2. Since discovering vimperator after, it has been an essential extension on par with an ad blocker. However, I found it consistently broke on new releases of Firefox and could take months to fix. Pentadactyl wasn't any better in this regard. For example, the current extension page says it only works up to F…

Yes! I love being able to click on links from the keyboard! Sadly, a lot of new interfaces make it hard for programs to recognize clickable links. I went through a phase where I became obsessed with doing everything from the keyboard rather than mouse[1] and that led me to pentadactyl (and then to vim[2]), an add-on I fell in love with. When the FF upgrades made it stop working I read the docs for how to compile pent…

> about six months ago, Firefox banned unsigned addons

If you use other Firefox editions besides the standard one then you still can use unsigned addons, based on what I've read. [0] The other editions include ESR, nightlies, Developer, and Unbranded.

Of course, these editions are not intended for most end-users.

[0] https://wiki.mozilla.org/Addons/Extension_Signing

Re: Vimperator: a Vim-like Firefox

#54
post #48

I remember using the original keyboard productivity extension for Firefox, "hit-a-hint"[1] back in Firefox 1 & 2. Since discovering vimperator after, it has been an essential extension on par with an ad blocker. However, I found it consistently broke on new releases of Firefox and could take months to fix. Pentadactyl wasn't any better in this regard. For example, the current extension page says it only works up to F…

Yes! I love being able to click on links from the keyboard! Sadly, a lot of new interfaces make it hard for programs to recognize clickable links. I went through a phase where I became obsessed with doing everything from the keyboard rather than mouse[1] and that led me to pentadactyl (and then to vim[2]), an add-on I fell in love with. When the FF upgrades made it stop working I read the docs for how to compile pent…

Actually, pentadactyl user willsALMANJ maintains signed pentadactyl releases that you can use with normal FF:

https://github.com/willsALMANJ/pentadactyl-signed/releases

Re: Vimperator: a Vim-like Firefox

#55

The idea sounds intriguing, but I fail to see how `:back` is easier or faster than `cmd+LeftArrow` or how `:open url.com` is faster than `cmd+l url.com` or `cmd+t url.com` What is the killer feature here?

The 2 killer features for me are: 1. Vi(m)-like keybindings 2. Portable configuration (dotfile) Like Vi(m), there are standard keybindings mapped to common commands, plus the ability to create your own. My fingers never have to leave the keyboard to navigate the Web, unless I have to interact with certain plugins. Vimperator reads its configuration from a ~/.vimperatorrc file when it launches. I keep this in version…

Another way to perform similar operations: Firefox's bookmarks support very similar keywords (or maybe the same ones). For example, to use a bookmark keyword to HN:

  1) Create a bookmark to Hacker News
  2) In the bookmark's properties, in the keyword field,
     type: h
  3) In Firefox's main UI, type ALT+D to move focus to
     the URL field, then type: h
To search Github (I'm assuming the URL in the parent is correct):

  1) Create a new bookmark
  2) In the address field, type:
     https://github.com/search?q=%s
     (in case it's not obvious, you can use the
     %s variable in any URL)
  3) In the keyword field, type: g

  Then you want to search Github:

  4) In Firefox's main UI, type ALT+D to move focus to
     the URL field
  5) In the URL field, type: g foobar
     You'll soon see a Github search for foobar

Re: Vimperator: a Vim-like Firefox

#56
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Signed builds are available here: https://github.com/willsALMANJ/pentadactyl-signed/releases It works for me on Firefox 50.1.0 But the move away from XUL is indeed worrisome for plugins like these... I kinda hope someone will just build it into the servo project and make that into a usable minimal browser.

Why aren't these on addons.mozzila.org or on the official Pentadactyl site? I'm a little wary of installing addons from some random github repo.

I think because pentadactyl devs don't have any time to spend on it anymore. We (the community) tried to engage them in conversation on Github and through email for months before mandatory signing started, and they never responded.

FWIW, I use willsALMANJ's releases with no problems, he was/is quite active on the pentadactyl issue tracker.

Re: Vimperator: a Vim-like Firefox

#57

Is it possible (in VimFX) to remap the (Shift) Escape? E.g. in my ~/.vimrc I use imap jj How users can live with Vim's default behavior (Escape, Ctrl-C, Ctrl-[) is mysterious to me (I do not like hitting Ctrl). :)

system bind caps -> ctrl. reduce stress on the pinky

Re: Vimperator: a Vim-like Firefox

#58

I used to be a user of pentadactyl, but never liked how it changed the entire look of the browser. Just last a couple of days ago, I found VimFx which is exactly what I always wanted. It's also open source at https://github.com/akhodakivskiy/VimFx

A vote for VimFX from me as well.

I used to be a Vimperator user, but lately I've found it too buggy to use. Even the help pages do not function properly.

Re: Vimperator: a Vim-like Firefox

#59
post #26
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Without Vimpertors's toolbar it's really hard to call Vimium an analogue. In comparison to options that Vimperator offers Vimium is just a couple of keymappings.

Closer to Vimperator is probably cVim[1], which also provides command line mode. [1]: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cvim/ihlenndgcmojh...

I've used both, and cVim is superior to Vimium in every respect except for one: the scrolling. In cVim when I hold down 'j' to scroll down, it does an initial jerk, and then scrolls down. Doing the same in Vimium, it has a smoother scroll and doesn't have the annoying initial jerk. That one thing has kept me from switching from Vimium to cVim.

Re: Vimperator: a Vim-like Firefox

#60
There's also Vimium for Chrome. Not sure how similar they are, but the only feature that matters about Vimium is pressing the F key, which allows you to open links without using the mouse. It's the greatest idea I've seen and it should be a native feature of major browsers.
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