This jobs post really saddens me

#1

Post by throwaway989111 » Sun, Jan 15, 2017, 9:25 PM UTC

I like to learn and keeping up adn dealing with all kinds of stuff but this job posting that I ran into on stackoverflow jobs really saddens me.

It's like a Senior Backend, Senior Frontend, mobile (both iOS and Android), and ofcourse (!) some big data and devops?! What the hell, is this really normal?

Required skills:

- Senior level knowledge in Python (flask, Django) as well as MySQL, MongoDB, Oracle, PostgreSQL, Big Data and ElasticSearch - Senior level knowledge in JavaScript (AngularJS and NodeJS) - Very good knowledge of Linux and Amazon Web Services - Knowledge of iOS and Android development

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#2

Post by maremmano » Sun, Jan 15, 2017, 9:38 PM UTC

... and 3 michelin star cooking skills is a must.

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#3

Post by greenyoda » Sun, Jan 15, 2017, 9:39 PM UTC

This seems to be the ad in question:

https://stackoverflow.com/jobs/127206/senior-backend-enginee...

About the company:

https://stackoverflow.com/jobs/companies/www-allianzx-com

They also require "eagerness to learn new languages and technology". I'd expect that someone who is good at learning new stuff and knows MySQL wouldn't take very long to learn about how to use PostgreSQL or Oracle - so why make all of these "required skills" for the job?

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Post by throwaway989111 » Sun, Jan 15, 2017, 9:39 PM UTC

maremmano wrote: post #2

... and 3 michelin star cooking skills is a must.

Actually, I left out a couple of bulletpoints where it mentions that Java and PHP is a big plus.

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Post by Cozumel » Sun, Jan 15, 2017, 10:15 PM UTC

Not to be flip at all but those are pretty basic requirements and anyone who is 'senior' could do all that, just keep learning, stagnate and die! A lot of times though companies throw around buzz words without knowing what they're actually asking for.

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Post by throwaway989111 » Sun, Jan 15, 2017, 10:37 PM UTC

Cozumel wrote: post #5

Not to be flip at all but those are pretty basic requirements and anyone who is 'senior' could do all that, just keep learning, stagnate and die! A lot of times though companies throw around buzz words without knowing what they're actually asking for.

So you're a fullstack web (frontend, backend) and you can develop both ios and android? Have you put in 3 years each? Maybe 2? thats not even senior..

I doubt anyone could effectively do that... I mean, sure, you can do pet projects in each area and then google up solutions when it comes to a live project at your work, but I dont think this is how it should work.

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Post by X86BSD » Sun, Jan 22, 2017, 8:40 PM UTC

Seems like when I was coming up in the 90's. Good lord the job postings wanted you to be a master in at least 10 disciplines for the pay of one. Literally they wanted network engineer, network security, system admin, DBA, developer, ...

It was obscene and almost everyone was lying and padding their resumes JUST to get an interview. Total insanity.

Looks like nothing has changed. Seriously I doubt anyone is a senior level anything in more than one database. SENIOR level. I've been using PG for decades but I still wouldn't say I am senior. I would truly love to meet the person who has senior level skill in ALL of those databases. I don't think they exist. Either that or your definition and mine of Senior level knowledge VASTLY differ.

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Post by X86BSD » Sun, Jan 22, 2017, 8:46 PM UTC

Cozumel wrote: post #5

Not to be flip at all but those are pretty basic requirements and anyone who is 'senior' could do all that, just keep learning, stagnate and die! A lot of times though companies throw around buzz words without knowing what they're actually asking for.

Basic reqs? I am TOTALLY throwing the BS flag. I would love to interview you and anyone else claiming those are "basic requirements" I promise you, you don't know as much as you think you know.