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Re: Little Known Hacker News Is My First Read Every Morning

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Post by curi »

Hexstream wrote: post #69
curi wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not a matter of different standards, it's a matter of: if you can't lead active yc users, why would you be able to lead an influx of new reddit (or techcrunch or whatever) users? rms for example is apologetic and offered to do what you wanted. a new user from reddit probably wouldn't do that. but despite this, you still lead in a way that alienates rms. in my case, i haven't apologized or offered to change my be…

PG: "Eventually the other users will get tired of you filling up the comment threads with your private beefs, and you'll stop." Your reply: "in my case, i haven't apologized or offered to change my behavior because you never notified me of doing something wrong or asked me to change any behavior . that's bad leadership too. if you want me to follow some rules you have to tell me." I think you should read more careful…

What did I do wrong, specifically? What should I change, specifically?

Are you saying maybe he took away voting because I wrote annoying comments?

Re: Little Known Hacker News Is My First Read Every Morning

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Post by ntoshev »

kingnothing wrote: post #56
garbowza wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who is "he?" Arrington runs TC. PG doesn't put anything on the frontpage of TC.

"He" would be Michael Arrington, the person who put it on the front page of TC. If he's an actual community member here, then he should have realized that was a stupid thing to do, for the sake of the news and comment quality on Hacker News, and not to have done it.

Do you think Arrington values the community here more than the community reading TC, his own community? Adding value for his readers should be his first priority.

Re: Little Known Hacker News Is My First Read Every Morning

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Post by malanalars »

TheTarquin wrote: post #59
run4yourlives wrote: post #2

We're screwed now... techcrunch isn't exactly known for its overly insightful comments. Welcome digg-like users!

Perhaps I haven't had sufficient experience with Digg, Techcrunch, etc., but it seems a touch elitist to me to denigrate someone based solely on the sites which they choose to frequent. Example: I browse youtube. A lot. I sometimes comment on videos. Now, read the comments on any substantially popular youtube video. A lot of noise, yes? So does that automatically make me an idiot or a bigot or illiterate? No, not nec…

@TheTarqin: The problem with these sites is, that they all "were" great places to go. But as soon as the userbase grew, they went downhill... It's not so much about being elitist, than being afraid of things, we have experienced already at other places.

Re: Little Known Hacker News Is My First Read Every Morning

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Post by marcus »

wumi wrote: post #55
jl wrote: post #6

New to Hacker News? http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Great advice. Although everybody is automatically assuming only bad-mannered ilk will come from TC, has anyone thought 'hey maybe there will be MORE insightful discussions.' Other than that, why not just led the editors do what they do best and not worry about it?

Because we have almost no editors, we police ourselves and if the community grows too rapidly it can lose focus, if tomorrow we'll be featured on Oprah this site will lose everything I love about it.

Read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September

Or in simpler words "The unwashed masses are upon us"

Re: Little Known Hacker News Is My First Read Every Morning

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Post by jgamman »

Prrometheus wrote: post #31
fortes wrote: post #5

> Why? Because it’s focused mostly on startup and hacking news, which is what we cover. It’s one of the best places to find information on startups we haven’t heard about yet. And, better, the community is jerk-free. Comments are mostly helpful, thoughtful and interesting. Hopefully the TC coverage doesn't change this ...

Hacker News is the Schrodinger blog. Techcrunch can’t observe it without changing its state.

ahem i think you mean Heisenberg's blog - Shcrodinger's blog would be all blogs at the same time until you actually tried to read it - then the blog wave function (a blavtion if you will) would collapse thus revealing the true observed blog. which will almost certainly be a LOL cat. it may be alive or dead - it's mileage has varied.

Re: Little Known Hacker News Is My First Read Every Morning

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Post by TheTarquin »

malanalars wrote: post #73
TheTarquin wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps I haven't had sufficient experience with Digg, Techcrunch, etc., but it seems a touch elitist to me to denigrate someone based solely on the sites which they choose to frequent. Example: I browse youtube. A lot. I sometimes comment on videos. Now, read the comments on any substantially popular youtube video. A lot of noise, yes? So does that automatically make me an idiot or a bigot or illiterate? No, not nec…

@TheTarqin: The problem with these sites is, that they all "were" great places to go. But as soon as the userbase grew, they went downhill... It's not so much about being elitist, than being afraid of things, we have experienced already at other places.

I suppose I can understand that, but I wonder if a better response might be of the "welcome, new users: here's how this site is different then you're used to" variety.

I understand that News.YC is pretty awesome. It's a fairly small, high-signal community, and I greatly appreciate that. I just don't understand this Digg-o-phobia. Perhaps it's just that I haven't witnessed the transformation you mentioned in other sites. Hacker News is really the first such website that has grabbed my interest.

Anyway, here's hoping it stays as interesting, vibrant, and high S/N ration as is now.

Re: Little Known Hacker News Is My First Read Every Morning

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Post by dhimes »

HN is one of the very best sites on the web. In fact, it's probably one of the best sites the web has ever had, at least for the tech/startup group. I have confidence that the right people will find it and the others will be bored and go away. It's actually kind of boring for flame wars. But great for news and ideas.

Re: Little Known Hacker News Is My First Read Every Morning

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Post by yummyfajitas »

TheTarquin wrote: post #58
jl wrote: post #6

New to Hacker News? http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Fantastic and concise. Out of curiosity, is there a link to that anywhere on the News.YC website? Perhaps I'm blind, but I don't see one anywhere. I looked for a page like that when I joined and, after not finding one, just jumped into the fray. It's a great resource for newbies like myself. Perhaps it deserves more prominent billing?

Perhaps it should be the first thing users see after they create a login?
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