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What are the books banned in camp Guantanamo?

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Re: What are the books banned in camp Guantanamo?

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Post by jnbiche »

CapacitorSet wrote: post #21
sean_patel wrote: post #5

#DeveloperFail Funny, the page asks for your name, and if you have ' like Irish names, it marks the name in Red (invalid) and doesn't let you move forward with finding out the books. I tested it with the following names. James O'Keefe Mullah O'Mar

Getting names right is very hard: https://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-...

No, getting names right is incredibly simple. It's a single unicode `name` field, stored however your language/db stores unicode. E.g.:

    name: [person's name]
No minimum lengths (other than != 0) and a reasonably large maximum length for your db (only to protect against DoS attacks). Accept all input (into properly prepared SQL statements).

Re: What are the books banned in camp Guantanamo?

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Post by wildmusings »

catuscoti wrote: post #3

Apparently, of the 800 men they have detained only 9 ever went to trial. Without trial ...

They exist in a legal grey area between POWs and war criminals.

POWs don't get a trial. They are held indefinitely until the end of hostilities. Given that the Taliban and Al-Qaeda are still operating against the US and its allies, hostilities are clearly not over. The trouble is that with such a 'war' against a decentralized enemy that has already lasted 15 years, and could quite conceivably last decades more, it's clear that 'indefinite detention' can effectively become 'life imprisonment' and that we're venturing into territory not accounted for by the pre-existing legal framework.

It's not a simple situation. Obama, who ran on a policy of closing Gitmo, was forced to accept

Re: What are the books banned in camp Guantanamo?

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Post by eternalban »

wildmusings wrote: post #34
catuscoti wrote: post #3

Apparently, of the 800 men they have detained only 9 ever went to trial. Without trial ...

They exist in a legal grey area between POWs and war criminals. POWs don't get a trial. They are held indefinitely until the end of hostilities. Given that the Taliban and Al-Qaeda are still operating against the US and its allies, hostilities are clearly not over. The trouble is that with such a 'war' against a decentralized enemy that has already lasted 15 years, and could quite conceivably last decades more, it's…

This whole WoT was an eye openner. Silly naive younger me, for example, was shocked to find out Geneva Conventions only apply to soldiers in uniforms. (I had assumed earlier it was because of human rights.) Turns out it is a gentlemen's agreement in context of playing war with their cannon fodder.

Re: What are the books banned in camp Guantanamo?

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Post by upofadown »

wildmusings wrote: post #34
catuscoti wrote: post #3

Apparently, of the 800 men they have detained only 9 ever went to trial. Without trial ...

They exist in a legal grey area between POWs and war criminals. POWs don't get a trial. They are held indefinitely until the end of hostilities. Given that the Taliban and Al-Qaeda are still operating against the US and its allies, hostilities are clearly not over. The trouble is that with such a 'war' against a decentralized enemy that has already lasted 15 years, and could quite conceivably last decades more, it's…

>They exist in a legal grey area between POWs and war criminals.

Yeah, it is pretty normal for a repressive regime to come up with a legal theory for why it is perfectly OK to hold people indefinitely without trial. Normally such theories are only accepted by that particular regime...

Re: What are the books banned in camp Guantanamo?

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Post by Dagwoodie »

upofadown wrote: post #37
wildmusings wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They exist in a legal grey area between POWs and war criminals. POWs don't get a trial. They are held indefinitely until the end of hostilities. Given that the Taliban and Al-Qaeda are still operating against the US and its allies, hostilities are clearly not over. The trouble is that with such a 'war' against a decentralized enemy that has already lasted 15 years, and could quite conceivably last decades more, it's…

>They exist in a legal grey area between POWs and war criminals. Yeah, it is pretty normal for a repressive regime to come up with a legal theory for why it is perfectly OK to hold people indefinitely without trial. Normally such theories are only accepted by that particular regime...

I think Obama felt exactly the same way going into office, but quickly realized the people being sent to Gauntanamo Bay are as dangerous, ambitious and as hardened extremists as they had been saying. Releasing them would greatly increase the chances of a terrorist act on western countries. I'm not saying they shouldn't get some kind of trial, but the notion that they are very likely all at the very least future suicide bombers is often overlooked. Bush's administration had been saying it and I think Obama came to believe it first hand once he got into office.

Re: What are the books banned in camp Guantanamo?

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

Dagwoodie wrote: post #38
upofadown wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>They exist in a legal grey area between POWs and war criminals. Yeah, it is pretty normal for a repressive regime to come up with a legal theory for why it is perfectly OK to hold people indefinitely without trial. Normally such theories are only accepted by that particular regime...

I think Obama felt exactly the same way going into office, but quickly realized the people being sent to Gauntanamo Bay are as dangerous, ambitious and as hardened extremists as they had been saying. Releasing them would greatly increase the chances of a terrorist act on western countries. I'm not saying they shouldn't get some kind of trial, but the notion that they are very likely all at the very least future suici…

We'd know what they were like, if they were allowed a trial and could defend themselves? As it is, we take the word of military police etc. Who have never made a mistake?

Re: What are the books banned in camp Guantanamo?

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Post by sean_patel »

sean_patel wrote: post #5

#DeveloperFail Funny, the page asks for your name, and if you have ' like Irish names, it marks the name in Red (invalid) and doesn't let you move forward with finding out the books. I tested it with the following names. James O'Keefe Mullah O'Mar

Why the downvotes? Sorry for calling it out, but it is indeed a #DeveloperFail. We (developers) have egos bigger than doctors and lawyerys, is that why everyone is downvoting a legitimate assertion with proof? (and more proof in comments to my original comment )
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