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Study finds association between eating hot peppers and decreased mortality

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Re: Study finds association between eating hot peppers and decreased mortality

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Post by Trundle »

nickpsecurity wrote: post #65
mindcrime wrote: post #10

Man, I should live forever then. I love hot peppers. Well, OK, I usually use bottled pepper sauces of various sorts, not whole, fresh peppers themselves. So maybe that doesn't work. But if it's just the capsaicin, then I get plenty of it... jalapeno pepper, cayenne pepper, chipotle pepper, scotch bonnet pepper, habanero pepper, ghost pepper (naga jolokia), trinidad scorpion pepper, carolina reaper peppers... I love '…

I want to eat them but they burn me up. Not sure if gradual progression starting at Jalapeno will knock that out over time or if you gotta be born with it. My brother & his household are about hot peppers. I give him free Ghost pepper sauce just to watch the results of them trying to add it to stuff or drink it straight. He'd have to be totally dehydrated after a day in the desert to look the same as what it does hah…

Tolerance build up happens with all flavours.

Re: Study finds association between eating hot peppers and decreased mortality

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Post by nickpsecurity »

mindcrime wrote: post #69
nickpsecurity wrote: post #65

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I want to eat them but they burn me up. Not sure if gradual progression starting at Jalapeno will knock that out over time or if you gotta be born with it. My brother & his household are about hot peppers. I give him free Ghost pepper sauce just to watch the results of them trying to add it to stuff or drink it straight. He'd have to be totally dehydrated after a day in the desert to look the same as what it does hah…

I mean... to me, the possible health benefits are pretty tenuous. I probably wouldn't make it a point to pursue eating progressively hotter food on the off chance there might be some minuscule health benefit. To me, the reason for eating hot foods is because they're tasty and good, and it's an enjoyable experience. FWIW, though, I didn't always like hot stuff. In fact, up through probably my mid 20's, I really didn't…

Thanks for the perspective. Makes sense.

Re: Study finds association between eating hot peppers and decreased mortality

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Post by madiathomas »

kyriakos wrote: post #50
mac01021 wrote: post #47

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> eating more vegetables and meats What is everyone living on? Just bread?

Vegetables and meat are lower in carbs than rice, potatoes, pasta, bread etc

One little correction -> Meat has zero carbs. All kinds of meat.

Re: Study finds association between eating hot peppers and decreased mortality

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Post by battlebot »

Balgair wrote: post #34
ju-st wrote: post #19

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> The report details six studies on rats and mice in which the animals developed signs of cancer in the stomach or liver after their diet was changed to include more capsaicin http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-34411492 (2015)

Ok, so I do work alongside people that do these food studies (coffee, wine, chocolate, etc). I myself do not do these studies, but I do know a few people that do. None of the scientists are trying to deceive the public. Nor are they trying very hard to get out a publication. Peer review for these, and for most paper, really works. The issue here is the press. These little studies show a very narrow and tightly contro…

I pretty much just ignore all of these reports and articles because of everything you just said. And I hate to change the subject, but studies done in every other subject are the exact same way. I'm in no way impugning the research and hard work of people out there who are doing an honest and forthright job and are trying to serve humanity. It's just that I've been to a lot of these same rodeos and well, I've seen some astounding breaches of ethics. Maybe someone down the line isn't trying to deceive the public, but the public is in fact being deceived, is it not? And now we have the bigger problem of we can't trust major news outlets and sources of information. So here we are.

Re: Study finds association between eating hot peppers and decreased mortality

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Post by astrodust »

halspero wrote: post #54
astrodust wrote: post #44

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Welcome to the world of journalism. If you want something stated with absolute certainty when the facts don't support that maybe you want to read propaganda.

Well, certainty isn't available whatever the facts! So it's not relevant here. There's no contradiction between fallibilism and asserting that some scientific explanation is true. This study doesn't assert anything apart from an 'association'. Yet progress is made by addressing theoretical problems, not by looking for assocations, which are everywhere. As for 'propaganda' I think you've got it the wrong way around. I…

Those people are called the "lay public" and they're capable of believing that caffeine is both good for preventing heart disease and a major cause of heart disease at the same time.

Re: Study finds association between eating hot peppers and decreased mortality

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Post by battlebot »

0xcde4c3db wrote: post #14
metaphorm wrote: post #8

some kind of correlation effect, perhaps? my speculation: eating more chili peppers is associated (positively) with a more varied and nutritious diet

My favorite speculation: eating more chili peppers is associated with reduced sensitivity to pain in general, which leads to lower stress, lower inflammation, and greater physical activity (greater tolerance of muscle soreness and injury risk). There's way more variation in pain sensitivity than most people realize. Seriously, though, I would expect that the biggest correlation is to ethnic/regional cuisine (particul…

I bet taking a few months off from work would also lead to most of those things.

Re: Study finds association between eating hot peppers and decreased mortality

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Post by battlebot »

astrodust wrote: post #44
halspero wrote: post #36

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No no. That's only a 'possible' explanation. In articles such as these you'll find plenty of 'may'-s, 'might'-s, 'can'-s and 'further research'-s. The vagueness and intellectual cowardice are exasperating. Don't be afraid to call it out when correlations are two-a-penny and funding is at stake. There are problems crying out for research.

Welcome to the world of journalism. If you want something stated with absolute certainty when the facts don't support that maybe you want to read propaganda.

Or maybe you're just reading fake news.

Re: Study finds association between eating hot peppers and decreased mortality

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Post by untoreh »

mattdeboard wrote: post #11

I look forward to the inevitable study that finds an association between spicy foods and heart disease, or colon cancer, or spontaneous brain tumors, or Lewandowsky-Lutz dysplasia, and recommends reducing intake of aforementioned spicy foods for all humans aged 10-75.

google spicy foods blood pressure
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