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They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know

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Re: They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know

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I don't really understand why you, as a consumer, would care about a company's hardware failure rate. Sure, that hurts their bottom line, but as long as you have a working Xbox 360, shouldn't you be happy? It's not really analogous at all to Vista, since Vista isn't "failing" so much as it's something people don't want.

Isn't that the very definition of failing in the marketplace?

No, people are buying the Xbox 360.

Re: They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know

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When I mean fail, I mean not working at all until I send it to MS tech support, they fix it, and sent it back. I have to wait 4-6 weeks every time my xbox 360 breaks; that's why I care. it's happened once before... and given what I read online it'll happen another 2-3 times

For what it's worth, I've only seen it happen once, given the probably 10 Xbox 360's I've seen ranging from launch day to recent purchases. Clearly, your mileage will vary. Back to the real point: you want your Xbox 360, you don't want Vista.

good point, you're right... I guess what I meant to say was that the same thing that plagues 360 that affects Vista's desirabilty, is quality. granted it hasn't stopped me from wanting to play 360... but in the next war I think Sony will learn from its mistake and I won't have to want MS's future crap...

Re: They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know

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It's sad that Microsoft felt the need to sell another OS. They CAN put out decent software, when they put in the requisite development time and energy. The windows machines I work on are Windows XP SP 1, which I think was kind of the last decent MS OS. And you know what? At the risk of drawing some ire, it's pretty good. For 99% of what I need to do, it Just Works. And with good anti-spyware, anti-virus tools, I don't have any problems with malware.

Really, I think that most of the problems with Vista can be traced to Microsoft thinking that they needed to make grand, sweeping changes, when they had a perfectly serviceable operating system already. It's like reinventing the wheel and starting by saying "okay, we've done the 'circular' thing, what other shapes could we use?"

Re: They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know

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From the company that emphasized, "Eating your own dog food", they bring to you, Microsoft Windows Vista (Super Duper it will order groceries for you edition) ;-)

One danger about "eating your own dog food" is that your entire company can get blind to the faults they forced themselves to overcome/stomach initially. "Eating your own dog food" gets you to find major flaws that get it working for yourself, but once it is "working for you" (even if that took a lot of workarounds and sacrifices) you've become accustomed to it "not being as bad as it was". Working at a major MS part…

Yes, very much agree. I used to work at MS and one problem is that many employees (even devs) have no experience with the other people's dogfood, ie. Linux/UNIX.

Because of this, you'd have situations where people would want to write C to make a quick string parsing tool, rather than perl or bash script.

If you're the CEO of Coke, you'd better know what Pepsi tastes like. "Company Loyalty" can be a convenient excuse for ignorance of the competition.

Re: They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know

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the last great OS from MS was windows 2000 pro...

as for vista, its horrible. has anybody tried to run google desktop search on it? Don't bother, just know it is so slow you wonder if it was by design.

XP Pro is a good alternative to Win2KPro so long as you strip all the extras.

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