I wonder how many people thought app.net was a Microsoft product.
Yeah, the name is confusing. It's like a pizza place named "Waffle Irons Direct".
App.net is shutting down
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#82So to recap, Twitter exploded onto the scene in 2007, the "fail whale" appeared a lot, developers made all sorts of wonderful programs hooked into Twitter, the fail whale disappeared, Twitter started to destroy the app ecosystem, App.net launched to great fanfare in response to Twitter's knuckleheaded anti-developer stance, Britney Spears and Justin Bieber arrived and knocked all the nerds out of the top spots on Twi…
> And after all this, Twitter still does not have a viable business model.
...more pertinently, App.net didn't have one either - and they had an open API, charged real money and did all the things HNers' idealized version of Twitter would.
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#83So to recap, Twitter exploded onto the scene in 2007, the "fail whale" appeared a lot, developers made all sorts of wonderful programs hooked into Twitter, the fail whale disappeared, Twitter started to destroy the app ecosystem, App.net launched to great fanfare in response to Twitter's knuckleheaded anti-developer stance, Britney Spears and Justin Bieber arrived and knocked all the nerds out of the top spots on Twi…
Twitter finances (TTM): revenue: $2.52B gross profit: $1.49B It's only losing money because of stock grants.
Okay, but don't these stock grants substitute for salary? It's not like Twitter could just stop granting stock with no ill effects.
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
Open sourcing, data export and a 2 months notice forward are pretty respectful in my book. I wish these where standard procedures for the industry.
On the flip side, it was users demanding free service (under which I include gracious data export) that killed the product in the first place. I hope we find a way to pay for this stuff more than I hope getting it free becomes standard.
Which is yet another example that the rise of free beer tools made the enterprise developers the only valued ones as customers.
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#85"give it ample time to bake" that was the strategy? having it sell itself?
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#86So to recap, Twitter exploded onto the scene in 2007, the "fail whale" appeared a lot, developers made all sorts of wonderful programs hooked into Twitter, the fail whale disappeared, Twitter started to destroy the app ecosystem, App.net launched to great fanfare in response to Twitter's knuckleheaded anti-developer stance, Britney Spears and Justin Bieber arrived and knocked all the nerds out of the top spots on Twi…
> And after all this, Twitter still does not have a viable business model. ...more pertinently, App.net didn't have one either - and they had an open API, charged real money and did all the things HNers' idealized version of Twitter would.
Maybe because the reason people use twitter isn't because it is useful but rather because
Either:
It is cool. So we must use it.
Or:
Everyone else is using it so we must use it too.
Seriously:
140 characters? Feature?
Everyone can read everything? Feature?
The two biggest technical "features" of twitter can be arrived at by dumbing down either google+ or facebook 98%.
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#88Still a good domain name. MS might be interested.
And then they launch a free platform, integrated with Windows 10 and Cortana, that competes directly with Twitter...
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#89App.net combined two big ideas: 1. Social networks are important enough that a subscription model is viable 2. Social networks should be built on a platform for social network applications Obviously neither idea could save app.net. Which idea caused most of the problems?
I suspect 1 is the big turnoff. It's really hard to make people pay for something they can get for free, with a better perceived value. App.net promised to have value in the future, but demanded payment upfront. Twitter offers immediate value without demanding any form of payment.
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#90So to recap, Twitter exploded onto the scene in 2007, the "fail whale" appeared a lot, developers made all sorts of wonderful programs hooked into Twitter, the fail whale disappeared, Twitter started to destroy the app ecosystem, App.net launched to great fanfare in response to Twitter's knuckleheaded anti-developer stance, Britney Spears and Justin Bieber arrived and knocked all the nerds out of the top spots on Twi…
> And after all this, Twitter still does not have a viable business model. ...more pertinently, App.net didn't have one either - and they had an open API, charged real money and did all the things HNers' idealized version of Twitter would.
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