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Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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Post by flukus »

rahilb wrote: post #96

I thought it was interesting that they specify the Desktop Wallpaper is free. I wondered if anyone had ever paid for desktop wallpaper: apparently people do http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=desktop+wallpaper&LH_Com... I wonder if I could write a script to sell royalty free wallpaper on ebay, if all the sellers have the rights to the images they are selling, and what kind of person pays for wallpaper.

> I wondered if anyone had ever paid for desktop wallpaper

For a while Windows 10 was basically a free OS supported by wallpaper micro transactions.

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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Post by lexnova »

Kostic wrote: post #171
StavrosK wrote: post #4

This made me realize how little innovation there is in the browser space today. Opera used to innovate extensively before the sale, and it looks like at least they're trying to keep doing it. I'm also hopeful for Vivaldi. Chrome and Firefox are completely stagnant, unfortunately.

I am really blown away by Vivaldi but I can't, sadly, start using a closed source browser. Browsers are an important (maybe the most important) programs today. I simply can't allow myself to get locked into a closed source browser today.

https://vivaldi.com/source/

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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Post by dvcrn »

I like how this feels, but sadly without 1Password and AdBlock I can't consider using it for now.

It looks like it's running pretty much on the same tech as normal opera and chrome. Here's to hope that extensions are coming soon!

/edit: looks like extensions is still available in the menu, it just doesn't resolve to anything.

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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Post by atomicfiredoll »

StavrosK wrote: post #44
NoGravitas wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chrome is semi-stagnant because it's dominant, which means not much drive to change. I wouldn't call Firefox stagnant. It's just got E10S (multiprocess). The Quantum project promises to gradually improve both speed and stability (and consequentially security). They are working on replacing the traditional Firefox extensions archetecture with WebExtensions. Fennec (Firefox on Android) is an underappreciated gem. I'm p…

Why do you care what the rendering engine is? It's literally the least exciting part. I never said "man, I wish this rendering engine ran different code". I've frequently said "I wish mouse gestures worked as well as Opera's did". Fennec is pretty great, yes. I've been using Firefox on ideological grounds for years, and it's getting harder and harder. I currently have a tab open that will just keep loading forever ev…

> I never said "man, I wish this rendering engine ran different code".

Then I guess you were never an IE6 user.

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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Post by Dylan16807 »

snowwolf wrote: post #38
StavrosK wrote: post #4

This made me realize how little innovation there is in the browser space today. Opera used to innovate extensively before the sale, and it looks like at least they're trying to keep doing it. I'm also hopeful for Vivaldi. Chrome and Firefox are completely stagnant, unfortunately.

Ahh, the paradox of being the market leader. Remember when Chrome tried to innovate with how we use bookmarks? [1] People cry out for innovation, but then freak out when said innovation happens. This is why disrupters are so successful - they can do something crazy and people will try it out and think - this is amazing. Because the mindset/psychology is that this is something new. But the market leader implements exa…

"removing list view" is not innovation.

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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Post by elkos »

StavrosK wrote: post #58
gcp wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you file a bug on this with the URL causing the problem? The tab not loading fully isn't necessarily our fault, but of course it shouldn't use 100% while doing that. The rendering engine is fairly important for apparent speed and smoothness (e.g. with scrolling). These are issues where Firefox was traditionally not rated highly.

Done, thanks.

Are you in Firefox proper, or Nightly (just asking for a friend of a friend) ;)

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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Post by problems »

StavrosK wrote: post #4

This made me realize how little innovation there is in the browser space today. Opera used to innovate extensively before the sale, and it looks like at least they're trying to keep doing it. I'm also hopeful for Vivaldi. Chrome and Firefox are completely stagnant, unfortunately.

Honestly, I wish Firefox was more stagnant and less "let's clone Chrome's every misfeature, who needs the ability to modify the browser UI?".

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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Post by thewhitetulip »

flukus wrote: post #177
erpellan wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The solution is not to try to disrupt the main product but to artificially compete with it. Google could release a new, unbranded browser with all the experimental features. Early adopters would flock to it, the comfortable majority would happily stick with what they know. Win win.

You can also make things optional and opt-in (at least for existing users). With browsers they can be extensions too, no need to shove it in everyone's face.

Firefox does this :-)

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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Post by thewhitetulip »

mtgx wrote: post #41

I was beginning to like Opera (again) right before it got acquired by a Chinese company. But then I saw how they ruined the Opera Max [1] app, and so I expect the same to happen to the Opera browser in the near future. [1] http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/10/31/opera-max-turns-nagw... If you want to experiment with a new browser that also uses Chromium and has native ad-blocking, try Brave: https://brave.com/

I don't understand why everyone hates add so much, I understand that excessive adverts are bad, ads are the reason that the Internet is what it is now, if we hadn't had ads to monetize content, then everything would cost money + be inside paywalls.
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