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Re: Marc Benioff joins Valley notables backing Gaza’s first coding academy

#131

Post by berntb »

justin66 wrote: post #126
berntb wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was just answering a common bad argument in advance. I wrote it INSIDE "()", AS AN EDIT . since that was the only thing you could comment on, sad... EDIT: I used a ":-)" three comments ago as a mark of irony. Well, justin66 have no serious answer, so I end it here. Edit 2: Justin66 seems to downvote my comments in this old discussion now, with multiple accounts... 15+ downvotes on old and new comments in 20 minu…

Now that I know that not all of what you've written is meant to be taken seriously, I really have no idea what point you're trying to get across, aside from some vague pro-Israel, anti-Palestine thing. My mistake for responding to a message ending in ":-)" in the first place.

Since you lack serious arguments -- the closest are that I had a ":-)" three comments ago and personal attacks -- we can close this.

(And of course it is just a coincidence that I get 7++ downvotes on old comments and 5+ downvotes on new comments just a few minutes after you get angry because you totally lack answers. :-) )

Edit: DanBC do have a point, I have a history of easily being trolled when people without arguments start discussin person instead etc. I will think about that in the future.

Re: Marc Benioff joins Valley notables backing Gaza’s first coding academy

#132

Post by berntb »

justin66 wrote: post #130
berntb wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was just answering a common bad argument in advance. I wrote it INSIDE "()", AS AN EDIT . since that was the only thing you could comment on, sad... EDIT: I used a ":-)" three comments ago as a mark of irony. Well, justin66 have no serious answer, so I end it here. Edit 2: Justin66 seems to downvote my comments in this old discussion now, with multiple accounts... 15+ downvotes on old and new comments in 20 minu…

I am absolutely not in the possession of two HN accounts. It strikes me as not completely inconceivable that someone else finds your posts on this topic, which seem to represent an internal dialogue as much as an attempt to communicate, irritating.

So, you agree that only a pathetic loser without cohones would downvote both old and new comments a bunch of times, when losing an argument...? :-)

(And if you wan't to argue that you could answer the argument, you had a few chances already.)

Edit: The quick downvotes after a few minutes on this old story shows that justin66 really think only pathetic losers without a spine systematically downvote someones comments when they lack arguments.

Re: Marc Benioff joins Valley notables backing Gaza’s first coding academy

#133

Post by detaro »

berntb wrote: post #120
justin66 wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you're going to argue that persecution and hatred of Jews are excusable because of X If it seemed to you that anything I wrote intended to argue that persecution and hatred of anyone is "excusable because of X", this was rather a waste of time. Which is of course a surprise, since discussion of the Palestinian conflict online is ordinarily so productive...

That was just answering a common bad argument in advance. I wrote it INSIDE "()", AS AN EDIT . since that was the only thing you could comment on, sad... EDIT: I used a ":-)" three comments ago as a mark of irony. Well, justin66 have no serious answer, so I end it here. Edit 2: Justin66 seems to downvote my comments in this old discussion now, with multiple accounts... 15+ downvotes on old and new comments in 20 minu…

> Easy to find for HN mods

Then write the mods an e-mail instead of hoping they read your comments.

Re: Marc Benioff joins Valley notables backing Gaza’s first coding academy

#134

Post by DanBC »

berntb wrote: post #127
iblankm wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are we talking about Side A and Side B at all? Each of those is a vast overgeneralization. Israelis are diverse, as are Palestinians/Gazans. It's easy to make broad generalizations until you actually meet people on both sides and understand their human context. Have you ever met a Gazan (outside of any military situation, if you're Israeli and had to serve)? If not, check this out since it may be the closest you…

A comment from an hours old account... :-) I was answering a claim "it was just a matter of degree". I pointed out that claim was highly doubtful, but didn't get a serious answer. And I won't get one, obviously. (Regarding the real subject of the post and your comment -- good luck.) Edit: justin66 have two accounts and could downvote twice? I hope the admins of HN see this... :-)

For clarity: I'm downvoting some of your comments because of your rude, aggressive, tone. I'm not justin66.

Re: Marc Benioff joins Valley notables backing Gaza’s first coding academy

#135

Post by DanBC »

berntb wrote: post #131
justin66 wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now that I know that not all of what you've written is meant to be taken seriously, I really have no idea what point you're trying to get across, aside from some vague pro-Israel, anti-Palestine thing. My mistake for responding to a message ending in ":-)" in the first place.

Since you lack serious arguments -- the closest are that I had a ":-)" three comments ago and personal attacks -- we can close this. (And of course it is just a coincidence that I get 7++ downvotes on old comments and 5+ downvotes on new comments just a few minutes after you get angry because you totally lack answers. :-) ) Edit: DanBC do have a point, I have a history of easily being trolled when people without argu…

>And of course it is just a coincidence

You're getting downvotes, and flags, because you are being rude and aggressive.

Re: Marc Benioff joins Valley notables backing Gaza’s first coding academy

#136

Post by justin66 »

mattip wrote: post #95
justin66 wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The Palestinian terrorists are declared martyrs, mural paintings are done, their relatives get a pension from PLO -- while caught Israeli murderers are sent to jail..? Judging from the public reaction in Israel to the manslaughter conviction of Elor Azaria (polling suggests something like 67% want him pardoned), some segment of the Israeli public isn't above sticking up for its murderers.

Yes things are getting worse, the cinfkuct is wearing patience thin, and, as of today, he had not been pardoned. But there will be no streets named after him, he will be dishonourably discharged from the military, and he will not be generally celebrated as a hero. He is viewed as yet another victim, except by some extremists who get a lot of screen time. Now can we get back to discussing supporting the coding academy…

Wow, yes. Point taken.

Re: Marc Benioff joins Valley notables backing Gaza’s first coding academy

#137

Post by berntb »

DanBC wrote: post #135
berntb wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since you lack serious arguments -- the closest are that I had a ":-)" three comments ago and personal attacks -- we can close this. (And of course it is just a coincidence that I get 7++ downvotes on old comments and 5+ downvotes on new comments just a few minutes after you get angry because you totally lack answers. :-) ) Edit: DanBC do have a point, I have a history of easily being trolled when people without argu…

>And of course it is just a coincidence You're getting downvotes, and flags, because you are being rude and aggressive.

I'll add a comment here so DanBC sees it.

You have a point, I am easily trolled when people lack arguments and start discussing person.

Regarding earlier comments... I got mainly upvotes, until an hour ago.

I have argued, a year or two ago, that this subject have to much emotional attachments and doesn't work on HN. It is twice as true today, it seems people now often have secondary accounts used for trolling when they lack answers about soemthing they find important.

Re: Marc Benioff joins Valley notables backing Gaza’s first coding academy

#138

Post by sctb »

berntb wrote: post #120
justin66 wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you're going to argue that persecution and hatred of Jews are excusable because of X If it seemed to you that anything I wrote intended to argue that persecution and hatred of anyone is "excusable because of X", this was rather a waste of time. Which is of course a surprise, since discussion of the Palestinian conflict online is ordinarily so productive...

That was just answering a common bad argument in advance. I wrote it INSIDE "()", AS AN EDIT . since that was the only thing you could comment on, sad... EDIT: I used a ":-)" three comments ago as a mark of irony. Well, justin66 have no serious answer, so I end it here. Edit 2: Justin66 seems to downvote my comments in this old discussion now, with multiple accounts... 15+ downvotes on old and new comments in 20 minu…

The guidelines ask us not to complain about downvotes in the first place, but it's definitely not OK to attack and accuse other users like this here. Please stop.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Marc Benioff joins Valley notables backing Gaza’s first coding academy

#139

Post by grzm »

berntb wrote: post #137
DanBC wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>And of course it is just a coincidence You're getting downvotes, and flags, because you are being rude and aggressive.

I'll add a comment here so DanBC sees it. You have a point, I am easily trolled when people lack arguments and start discussing person. Regarding earlier comments... I got mainly upvotes, until an hour ago. I have argued, a year or two ago, that this subject have to much emotional attachments and doesn't work on HN. It is twice as true today, it seems people now often have secondary accounts used for trolling when th…

I don't think what you're seeing is the action of secondary accounts. The tone of a number of your comments has been rude and aggressive, and the accusations of other users is also uncivil. You've been called out by a mod, and at least two other members have commented on your behavior. I've downvoted and flagged a number of your comments as well.

You may be right about the topic not being appropriate for HN. Regardless of the behavior of other members—even if you think they're trolling—it's important to be civil. Even more so when the topic is emotional. Otherwise it's just better to refrain from commenting.

Re: Marc Benioff joins Valley notables backing Gaza’s first coding academy

#140

Post by berntb »

grzm wrote: post #139
berntb wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll add a comment here so DanBC sees it. You have a point, I am easily trolled when people lack arguments and start discussing person. Regarding earlier comments... I got mainly upvotes, until an hour ago. I have argued, a year or two ago, that this subject have to much emotional attachments and doesn't work on HN. It is twice as true today, it seems people now often have secondary accounts used for trolling when th…

I don't think what you're seeing is the action of secondary accounts. The tone of a number of your comments has been rude and aggressive, and the accusations of other users is also uncivil. You've been called out by a mod, and at least two other members have commented on your behavior. I've downvoted and flagged a number of your comments as well. You may be right about the topic not being appropriate for HN. Regardle…

OK, thanks. I understand that I over reacted.

I have found that I am easily trolled when I have the beginning of allergy troubles. It is better to not comment than to find out the hard way I need anti histamines.

Sorry for wasting people's time and energy.

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