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Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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I like the screen-cap utility. All the rest seems useless, knowing that people already litter their desktops with a million icons.

But why duplicate the screen-cap utility already available on your OS (which works exactly the same way)? Do I not get it?

vivaldi has a screencap facility as well that will capture the whole web page or just selections of it. it's a fairly recent addition. prior to that it would take screencaps when record notes about a site but only the current viewframe.

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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Chrome is semi-stagnant because it's dominant, which means not much drive to change. I wouldn't call Firefox stagnant. It's just got E10S (multiprocess). The Quantum project promises to gradually improve both speed and stability (and consequentially security). They are working on replacing the traditional Firefox extensions archetecture with WebExtensions. Fennec (Firefox on Android) is an underappreciated gem. I'm p…

Why do you care what the rendering engine is? It's literally the least exciting part. I never said "man, I wish this rendering engine ran different code". I've frequently said "I wish mouse gestures worked as well as Opera's did". Fennec is pretty great, yes. I've been using Firefox on ideological grounds for years, and it's getting harder and harder. I currently have a tab open that will just keep loading forever ev…

Ah, mainly I just care that there's a diversity in rendering engines. A) to prevent stagnation, and B) to prevent a monoculture of vulnerabilities. I don't care that much about which rendering engine a given browser uses all that much.

About that particular tab (which I guess you're sending a bug report about), maybe you want to try the same URL in a fresh Firefox profile?

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

#124
post #89

Split screen mode is such a good idea and I wonder why other browsers haven't implemented that yet. Would make devices like Chromebooks a lot more productive to me.

window management is the operating system's job, not the browser's. you can do split screen in any browser by putting two windows beside each other.

While you have a point, I think there are plenty of examples where application managed multi-panes are useful.

* Emacs (and other text editors) * IDEs * Terminals * etc...

Man, if I found a browser that gave me expressive enough keyboard shortcuts to make using a mouse optional (like Emacs) I would be switch to it in a heartbeat. Heck, Emacs style pane management and buffer switching might be enough.

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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post #30
post #4

This made me realize how little innovation there is in the browser space today. Opera used to innovate extensively before the sale, and it looks like at least they're trying to keep doing it. I'm also hopeful for Vivaldi. Chrome and Firefox are completely stagnant, unfortunately.

I used Vivaldi for a couple of months. Plenty of goodness, and one major showstopper: it's slow. It's so very sluggish and slow. Something as trivial as tearing a tab off a window would take several seconds. Switching between tabs was laggy as well, once there were many. Every other browser felt blazingly fast after that. That's a pity since this type of issues usually indicates some deeper design problems that won't…

Vivaldi is a layer of Javascript on top of a cut-down chrome. You're right. It can't ever be faster than Chrome, nor really fast, for that matter.

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

#127
post #8

I like the screen-cap utility. All the rest seems useless, knowing that people already litter their desktops with a million icons.

The screen-cap utility is the most useless thing they have to offer, as it'll inevitably recompress stuff that already had been compressed. It would be much more useful to have a tool to actually get you the link of the image you're seeing no matter how much the site tries to hide it.

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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post #84
post #82

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That's default Chromium behaviour :)

I don't have site specific permissions showing in the other chromium based browsers I use, like this: http://imgur.com/a/ApCfK That's new to me

On Google Chrome i get the exact same thing.

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chrome is semi-stagnant because it's dominant, which means not much drive to change. I wouldn't call Firefox stagnant. It's just got E10S (multiprocess). The Quantum project promises to gradually improve both speed and stability (and consequentially security). They are working on replacing the traditional Firefox extensions archetecture with WebExtensions. Fennec (Firefox on Android) is an underappreciated gem. I'm p…

Why do you care what the rendering engine is? It's literally the least exciting part. I never said "man, I wish this rendering engine ran different code". I've frequently said "I wish mouse gestures worked as well as Opera's did". Fennec is pretty great, yes. I've been using Firefox on ideological grounds for years, and it's getting harder and harder. I currently have a tab open that will just keep loading forever ev…

You say

> Why do you care what the rendering engine is?

then later you say

> I currently have a tab open that will just keep loading forever every time I load the browser, taking 100% CPU, until I go and press escape to stop loading. It's slow as hell and frequently freezes.

Do you not see that those two things may be related?

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

#130
post #63

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It's a real shame they didn't have a UX professional on the team to tell them not to include backspace as a shortcut for back in the first place. Although I believe that was Microsoft's fault, but Google shouldn't have copied it. I've lost more data to that than any web browser bug over the years. Fortunately Chrome had an extension that let me turn it off!

> I've lost more data to that than any web browser bug over the years. Is the back that backspace goes back, or that the browser doesn't store text you've typed in a textarea?

The browser does store the text in the text area, but the text area disappears when you reload the page because you need to click a button that adds that element to the page.
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