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Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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Mods, can we get the title changed? It's for Windows too (and maybe Linux, I can't verify that).

I downloaded it. It's... interesting. It may be a few days before I have a real opinion of it, though.

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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Split screen mode is such a good idea and I wonder why other browsers haven't implemented that yet. Would make devices like Chromebooks a lot more productive to me.

Vivaldi has already had this feature [0] for a while.

[0]: https://vivalditips.com/efficiency/tab-tiling

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

#105
I really like the concept, and I want to use it in full-screen mode (to make it feel more like a first-level OS experience even if it isn't), but sadly once you open a website in full-screen, the rest of the browser chrome goes away. Of course there are times when I'd want it that way, but there should probably be a separate option for full-screen with the browser chrome.

I know this is basically just an early prototype, so I can't really be critical. If anything, it's just such an effective and impressive prototype that I already want to adopt it for daily use :)

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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This made me realize how little innovation there is in the browser space today. Opera used to innovate extensively before the sale, and it looks like at least they're trying to keep doing it. I'm also hopeful for Vivaldi. Chrome and Firefox are completely stagnant, unfortunately.

chrome's dev tools are anything but stagnant but the browsing experience has not innovated much.

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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post #71
post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't need my browser to "innovate". It just needs to continue doing it what it does best - consistently render a presentation layer. All of the innovation should be under the hood (which it appears Chrome/Firefox have been doing)

So you don't use bookmarks or tabs?

Bookmarks and tabs are there already in all major OSS browsers.

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a real shame they didn't have a UX professional on the team to tell them not to include backspace as a shortcut for back in the first place. Although I believe that was Microsoft's fault, but Google shouldn't have copied it. I've lost more data to that than any web browser bug over the years. Fortunately Chrome had an extension that let me turn it off!

The old Opera rarely had this problem, it would usually cache the input text. So if you accidentally went 'backspace' or closed the tab entirely you could easily recover your data in most scenarios. One could argue it's the user's fault for losing data, because using a sub-par browser is a choice. Just my 2 cents.

What browser you're using is not always a choice, or your choice is limited. In the workplace many users do not have local admin or the ability to install arbitrary browsers.

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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post #89

Split screen mode is such a good idea and I wonder why other browsers haven't implemented that yet. Would make devices like Chromebooks a lot more productive to me.

window management is the operating system's job, not the browser's. you can do split screen in any browser by putting two windows beside each other.

That's true but there are counter examples:

For instance, I'm very thankful that my text editor and terminal allow me to split panes within their window rather than through multiple instances handled by the OS. I seem to prefer having panes/tabs vs window instances when alt-tabbing. Especially if I have two browsers splitting my viewport and a couple full sized browsers. This makes it very annoying to alt-tab only between the two half screened browser windows. On OS X anyway.

I actually tried using OS X's full split screen, but that creates a new virtual desktop. And even with reduced motion (which helps a lot avoiding headaches when working on multiple windows), it's still too slow/animated for me to switch between my virtual desktop with split screen browsers and other virtual desktops with editors/terminals etc.

Finally, what's nice about split panes vs window instances is resizing. Resizing one pane resizes the others. Whereas resizing one window does not resize the others (at least not on OS X's default floating windows. But even something like Spectacle. Someone knows of a tiled window manager that resizes all windows when resizing one btw ? Looking for something like dwm for os x)

Re: Opera Neon concept browser

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post #101

So should one be concerned about private data ex-filtration since Opera is now owned by a Chinese consortium [0]? This is a major reason why I gravitate towards Vivaldi inspite of being an Opera power user back in it's heyday. [0] http://tech.eu/brief/group-chinese-firms-acquire-opera-softw...

Probably in the same way you should be if you're keeping your files on Dropbox.
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