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It felt amazing to leave work with a clear head, not thinking about whatever unfinished business I had left which could prove to be a problem in meeting the deadline.

My story is quite the reverse. I grew up on a dryland wheat farm in Montana. Nature has a way of enforcing its own deadlines. There, you are never not aware of the issue facing you, hail, no rain, early fall, short crops. Software deadlines seemed to pale in comparison.

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That sounds good, but I worked hard enough to get a job in my field that pays me enough to live comfortably and have a good college savings plan for my daughter. What advice for those of us who did not have outstanding early success, good savings and obviously immense talent?

Hah! Uh ... I'm not at all qualified to ever give out advice to anyone else, especially someone I'm not very familiar with. So I have none! Part of the misfortune with making money early on is that I never learned how to manage it, or save it, so I had no savings within a few months of leaving Florida. Having savings would have made a lot of the struggle much easier, but I don't think I would have learned as much, ei…

Ah, but I'd take immense determination and (supposedly :) ) average talent over immense talent and low determination any time of day.

I had a classmate at high school and then at university that was the brightest student I ever saw at math. He could prove theorems in his sleep, and often did a different proof than the one taught "just for fun" (and giving teachers headaches).

Sadly his parents were quite rich and also a troubled family, so he went into recreational drugs, partying and D&D. Last time I saw him, he still hadn't finished university and had accomplished nothing with his life (well, he'd had a lot of girlfriends and partying AND D&D, so maybe he hadn't "wasted" time from his point of view)

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why would you bring life into this world without having absolutely everything in order?

That reminds me of the opening scene of 'idiocracy'. I didn't downvote you, but I think that there is something missing here. Nobody that has ever brought a child in to the world had absolutely everything in order. And even if they thought they did they would have soon found out that it was not the case. Then there is the period (pun not intended) between conception and delivery, in which a lot can change. Waiting fo…

Instead, if you want children, go for it while you are young, adaptable and have tons of energy.

I can appreciate the logic in that, but I'd caution anyone against jumping into a commitment of that magnitude before they've achieved some minimum threshold of maturity.

To illustrate my point, the rate of divorce declines rapidly as the age when married increases. In my experience, the same factors that contribute to a successful relationship also prepare (to the small degree that preparation is possible) a person for the utter, absolute responsibility and sacrifice that is parenthood.

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The author said "live a _comfortable life_ and save for daughter's college". He chose _not_ to live a comfortable life and he should be chided for this. Even if he could not save for his daughter's college, there are always other options available: scholarships, working while attending college, starting a community college and transferring (I did this for undergrad and paid my way through graduate school). I voted yo…

for the record, i don't think families with two six digit incomes should have children either. they're existence is dependent on the lives of people who do not earn six digit incomes, and so they are guilty of just as much misery in this world.

> for the record, i don't think families with two six digit incomes should have children either. they're existence is dependent on the lives of people who do not earn six digit incomes, and so they are guilty of just as much misery in this world.

That's a very odd comment. Two six digit incomes is a family of two engineers (2-5 years into their career) in Silicon Valley. Two $120,000-$150,000 incomes in Silicon Valley means "can afford a single family home, as long as both spouses are employed".

"They're" (I think you meant their) existence is not dependent on the lives of people who do not earn six digit incomes, amongst them are also people (doctors, engineers, scientists) who are making the lives of less fortunate much less miserable.

That also describes my parents and would very likely describe my own family (I've been earning a six digit income since two years out of college), so it's not something extra ordinary.

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why would you bring life into this world without having absolutely everything in order?

The author said "live a _comfortable life_ and save for daughter's college". He chose _not_ to live a comfortable life and he should be chided for this. Even if he could not save for his daughter's college, there are always other options available: scholarships, working while attending college, starting a community college and transferring (I did this for undergrad and paid my way through graduate school). I voted yo…

s/should be chided for this/should not be chided for this/

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Where do you climb?

We live in Pittsburgh, so primarily at the New River Gorge and Coopers Rock. We'll take several trip to the Red River Gorge, too, and we just returned from three weeks at Hueco Tanks. Yourself?

I currently live in NYC, so I mainly climb at the Gunks. However, I am moving to Boulder in a month after a road trip to Yosemite. I look forward to expanding my crag options.

Have you been to Seneca Rocks? I had my first trad experience there. The exposure was awesome.

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I have no idea who he is, and a quick Googling didn't help much.

he's a ceo type who attacked "job hoppers" as the worst kind of employees / "never hire them". this ties into the incident with calacanis labeling a gen-y ex-employee who had the audacity to quit his job a "flake"/"trophy kid". i genuinely hate suster and calacanis. they're a big part of what makes me want to leave this fucking industry. http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/2010/04/22/never-hire-job...

Nice that you "genuinely hate me" given that you don't even know me. Very easily to "hate" people online you've never met. Harder in person where we don't easily fit some stereotype you have in your mind.

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We live in Pittsburgh, so primarily at the New River Gorge and Coopers Rock. We'll take several trip to the Red River Gorge, too, and we just returned from three weeks at Hueco Tanks. Yourself?

I currently live in NYC, so I mainly climb at the Gunks. However, I am moving to Boulder in a month after a road trip to Yosemite. I look forward to expanding my crag options. Have you been to Seneca Rocks? I had my first trad experience there. The exposure was awesome.

You'll have no lack of cragging options in Boulder, that's for sure.

I've not been to Seneca--we are tried-and-true boulderers/sport climbers.

Re: Reddit IAMA. An ex Google programmer switched to a job in the lumbering industry

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The value of a programmer is not in what he has learned but in that he can learn fast.

The latter typically depends in significant degree on the former.

Yes, and what's more, if you have the ability to learn really fast and yet haven't accumulated much knowledge yet, one might wonder if you aren't lazy and wasting your potential.
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