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Re: When You Are Depressed, Make Something

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mileycyrusXOXO wrote: post #132
EGreg wrote: post #101

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What do you guys think is the point of all our activities if people eventually die? Most mainstream Judaeo-Christian postulates the immortality of the soul. But it seems to come up against mainstream history and science. Hasn't anyone here felt these existential questions? Even if you accomplish so much, in the end you can't even answer basic questions about the meaning of it all. You can consile yourself with the id…

I had this realization years ago. Yet somehow, I was fine with it - my mentality was, "When I'm dead I'll be too busy being dead to care that I'm dead." Then six or so months ago this realization struck me again. Every day since, I wrestle through the same exact thoughts that you posted. I just want to be content.

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Re: When You Are Depressed, Make Something

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mileycyrusXOXO wrote: post #132
EGreg wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you guys think is the point of all our activities if people eventually die? Most mainstream Judaeo-Christian postulates the immortality of the soul. But it seems to come up against mainstream history and science. Hasn't anyone here felt these existential questions? Even if you accomplish so much, in the end you can't even answer basic questions about the meaning of it all. You can consile yourself with the id…

I had this realization years ago. Yet somehow, I was fine with it - my mentality was, "When I'm dead I'll be too busy being dead to care that I'm dead." Then six or so months ago this realization struck me again. Every day since, I wrestle through the same exact thoughts that you posted. I just want to be content.

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Re: When You Are Depressed, Make Something

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mileycyrusXOXO wrote: post #132
EGreg wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you guys think is the point of all our activities if people eventually die? Most mainstream Judaeo-Christian postulates the immortality of the soul. But it seems to come up against mainstream history and science. Hasn't anyone here felt these existential questions? Even if you accomplish so much, in the end you can't even answer basic questions about the meaning of it all. You can consile yourself with the id…

I had this realization years ago. Yet somehow, I was fine with it - my mentality was, "When I'm dead I'll be too busy being dead to care that I'm dead." Then six or so months ago this realization struck me again. Every day since, I wrestle through the same exact thoughts that you posted. I just want to be content.

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Re: When You Are Depressed, Make Something

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Post by ZeroFries »

cgriswald wrote: post #203
ZeroFries wrote: post #183

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- This is advice for sadness, not depression. This is the opening quote in the article: "Sadness is when you feel down because things aren’t going your way. Depression is when you feel down even when all is going well." That just means you cannot identify the reason you're feeling depressed. If everything was going well (including your own health), you would not be depressed.

Sometimes the reason you are feeling depressed has nothing to do with how things are going. My depression was caused by things that had happened in the past and that I didn't spend any time consciously thinking about. Dealing with that stuff took some work, but once I did, my depression lifted and hasn't returned. Depression means, even if things are going well, you can't feel good about it .

Every effect is caused by something that happened in the past. The physical trauma of past situations reared its head. Sounds like an external factor to me.

Re: When You Are Depressed, Make Something

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hathawsh wrote: post #155
EGreg wrote: post #101

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What do you guys think is the point of all our activities if people eventually die? Most mainstream Judaeo-Christian postulates the immortality of the soul. But it seems to come up against mainstream history and science. Hasn't anyone here felt these existential questions? Even if you accomplish so much, in the end you can't even answer basic questions about the meaning of it all. You can consile yourself with the id…

"Most mainstream Judaeo-Christian postulates the immortality of the soul. But it seems to come up against mainstream history and science." Does it? Science does not answer questions that defy empirical inquiry. I have been told that we are spirits first and that we are having a temporary in-body experience. We don't currently remember our time before because this period of our eternal existence is a special test. It'…

I mean like for example the archaeology and genetic tracing of native americans building cities 5000 years ago, Egyptian pyramids built 4500 years ago, vs the story that everything on earth got wiped out by a giant flood 4100 years ago. They can't both be true.

Similarly if the Exodus happened Egypt would have been devastated and overrun by Hittites etc.

Or Herod's killing of all the children. Or the mass resurrection of the saints in Matthew. It would have left behind some independent accounts.

Where is all the evidence? That's what I mean.

It can all still be true theologically. But who wrote these books and if it happens that at least some of stories are embellished then doesn't that kind of throw a monkey wrench into it? On what basis are you sure about what to believe?

Re: When You Are Depressed, Make Something

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mileycyrusXOXO wrote: post #132
EGreg wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you guys think is the point of all our activities if people eventually die? Most mainstream Judaeo-Christian postulates the immortality of the soul. But it seems to come up against mainstream history and science. Hasn't anyone here felt these existential questions? Even if you accomplish so much, in the end you can't even answer basic questions about the meaning of it all. You can consile yourself with the id…

I had this realization years ago. Yet somehow, I was fine with it - my mentality was, "When I'm dead I'll be too busy being dead to care that I'm dead." Then six or so months ago this realization struck me again. Every day since, I wrestle through the same exact thoughts that you posted. I just want to be content.

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Re: When You Are Depressed, Make Something

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mileycyrusXOXO wrote: post #132
EGreg wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you guys think is the point of all our activities if people eventually die? Most mainstream Judaeo-Christian postulates the immortality of the soul. But it seems to come up against mainstream history and science. Hasn't anyone here felt these existential questions? Even if you accomplish so much, in the end you can't even answer basic questions about the meaning of it all. You can consile yourself with the id…

I had this realization years ago. Yet somehow, I was fine with it - my mentality was, "When I'm dead I'll be too busy being dead to care that I'm dead." Then six or so months ago this realization struck me again. Every day since, I wrestle through the same exact thoughts that you posted. I just want to be content.

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Re: When You Are Depressed, Make Something

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Post by [deleted] »

mileycyrusXOXO wrote: post #132
EGreg wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you guys think is the point of all our activities if people eventually die? Most mainstream Judaeo-Christian postulates the immortality of the soul. But it seems to come up against mainstream history and science. Hasn't anyone here felt these existential questions? Even if you accomplish so much, in the end you can't even answer basic questions about the meaning of it all. You can consile yourself with the id…

I had this realization years ago. Yet somehow, I was fine with it - my mentality was, "When I'm dead I'll be too busy being dead to care that I'm dead." Then six or so months ago this realization struck me again. Every day since, I wrestle through the same exact thoughts that you posted. I just want to be content.

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Re: When You Are Depressed, Make Something

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Post by [deleted] »

mileycyrusXOXO wrote: post #132
EGreg wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you guys think is the point of all our activities if people eventually die? Most mainstream Judaeo-Christian postulates the immortality of the soul. But it seems to come up against mainstream history and science. Hasn't anyone here felt these existential questions? Even if you accomplish so much, in the end you can't even answer basic questions about the meaning of it all. You can consile yourself with the id…

I had this realization years ago. Yet somehow, I was fine with it - my mentality was, "When I'm dead I'll be too busy being dead to care that I'm dead." Then six or so months ago this realization struck me again. Every day since, I wrestle through the same exact thoughts that you posted. I just want to be content.

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Re: When You Are Depressed, Make Something

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Post by Alex3917 »

yellowapple wrote: post #225
Alex3917 wrote: post #165

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> I haven't the slightest idea where you're getting the "brain inflammation" thing from http://lmgtfy.com/?q=inflammation+depression

From your Google query: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/news/severe-depression-linke... "The Duke team concluded that depression, therefore, is more likely to contribute to inflammation in the body as opposed to arising as a consequence of inflammation."

The Duke research is interesting.

But saying that because they didn't find a pathway that inflammation is unlikely to cause depression doesn't really make any sense, given that major triggers for depression are surgery, infection, autoimmune diseases, etc.

I don't think anyone is disputing that depression also causes inflammation, but the idea that the causality only goes one way just seems very counter to everything else we know.

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