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Re: Little Known Hacker News Is My First Read Every Morning

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Post by curi »

iamelgringo wrote: post #49
curi wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not a matter of different standards, it's a matter of: if you can't lead active yc users, why would you be able to lead an influx of new reddit (or techcrunch or whatever) users? rms for example is apologetic and offered to do what you wanted. a new user from reddit probably wouldn't do that. but despite this, you still lead in a way that alienates rms. in my case, i haven't apologized or offered to change my be…

Dude. The place for this discussion is not here. If you have a beef with PG, use email. Nothing personal, but it doesn't make for great reading.

I don't think he'd enjoy that email, so I haven't sent it. He chose not to contact me about this, presumably for a reason.

This, on the other hand, is a public thread where it's relevant to the topic in the parent comments. I haven't asked pg to read this thread, so it's not my problem if he chooses to.

Re: Little Known Hacker News Is My First Read Every Morning

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Post by wumi »

jl wrote: post #6

New to Hacker News? http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Great advice.

Although everybody is automatically assuming only bad-mannered ilk will come from TC, has anyone thought 'hey maybe there will be MORE insightful discussions.'

Other than that, why not just led the editors do what they do best and not worry about it?

Re: Little Known Hacker News Is My First Read Every Morning

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Post by kingnothing »

garbowza wrote: post #47
kingnothing wrote: post #12

With as much as we complain about how much noobs will change the site, why did he go off and do a stupid thing like put this on the front page of TC?

Who is "he?" Arrington runs TC. PG doesn't put anything on the frontpage of TC.

"He" would be Michael Arrington, the person who put it on the front page of TC. If he's an actual community member here, then he should have realized that was a stupid thing to do, for the sake of the news and comment quality on Hacker News, and not to have done it.

Re: Little Known Hacker News Is My First Read Every Morning

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Post by ghiotion »

I'm not ready to pull a chicken little. I came over here from reddit after seeing pg's post on trolls on the reddit front page. Some of the earliest comments and/or posts I saw were of the "oh man, we're screwed now" type. Obviously I can't speak from experience, but I have a hard time believing the reddit crowd did HN a disservice. HN is just too darn... smart for the majority of people. On the rare occasion when some stupid POS makes it to the front page, the comment section more than makes up for it.

The community is too good to suffer fools gladly. And fools get bored easily.

Re: Little Known Hacker News Is My First Read Every Morning

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Post by TheTarquin »

jl wrote: post #6

New to Hacker News? http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Fantastic and concise. Out of curiosity, is there a link to that anywhere on the News.YC website? Perhaps I'm blind, but I don't see one anywhere. I looked for a page like that when I joined and, after not finding one, just jumped into the fray.

It's a great resource for newbies like myself. Perhaps it deserves more prominent billing?

Re: Little Known Hacker News Is My First Read Every Morning

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Post by TheTarquin »

run4yourlives wrote: post #2

We're screwed now... techcrunch isn't exactly known for its overly insightful comments. Welcome digg-like users!

Perhaps I haven't had sufficient experience with Digg, Techcrunch, etc., but it seems a touch elitist to me to denigrate someone based solely on the sites which they choose to frequent.

Example: I browse youtube. A lot. I sometimes comment on videos. Now, read the comments on any substantially popular youtube video. A lot of noise, yes? So does that automatically make me an idiot or a bigot or illiterate? No, not necessarily. A similar argument can be made for TechCrunch, Digg, or any other website. The problem is the site, not the users.

In a sense, this is a fallacy of division: Digg is a noisy site with little, if any meaningful discourse. Therefore none of its users are capable of meaningful discourse.

Re: Little Known Hacker News Is My First Read Every Morning

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Post by wmeredith »

run4yourlives wrote: post #15
ivankirigin wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The arrival of less insightful people is inevitable. The goal should be presenting the site such that they matter less or don't bother coming.

Well put. It'll be interesting to see how pg and team handle something that every other site has failed miserably with. I've got high hopes.

There's also Metafilter. Or more spcifically, ask Metafilter which maintains one of the highest quality, large communities I've managed to find online.

http://ask.metafilter.com/

The $5 price of admission seems to be beyond most 1337 hax0rz with funy p!cs and LOLZ.

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