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'Tooth repair drug' may replace fillings

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Re: 'Tooth repair drug' may replace fillings

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Post by mustacheemperor »

bsenftner wrote: post #167

There is a medical device, designed and manufactured in California, that generates O3 in such a way that a single tooth can be isolated and bathed in O3. The result is bacteria death within any tooth crack or cavity. Following that the calcium in our saliva naturally fills in any bacteria free cracks and cavities. This functioning, successful medical device is a "hit" everywhere on earth except the United States beca…

>that generates O3 in such a way that a single tooth can be isolated and bathed in O3. The result is bacteria death within any tooth crack or cavity.

If you could prove that with a peer-reviewed paper, you'll revolutionize dentistry in the US, that's for sure. In other countries boner pills made from rhino tusks are a "hit" but that doesn't mean the FDA is corrupt for banning them as clinical treatment here.

You can still market O3 therapy as what it is, "alternative medicine." Just not clinical treatment.

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Post by pasquinelli »

poikniok wrote: post #32
hackits wrote: post #22

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I would of liked to been told `Nothing is going to come on the market` instead of `All this wonderful technology is going to solve any problems you're going to have`. The latter results in careless behavior, the former results more careful behavior. Personally as someone as a kid was going up out-back Australia who's parents and care giver didn't put fluoride tablets into the water because it caused the water to `tas…

Fluoride decreases IQ significantly, be thankful that at least you are intelligent, albeit with bad teeth.

i'd rather be stupid than have bad teeth.

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Post by Arizhel »

MrQuincle wrote: post #114
Cerium wrote: post #95

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I think it depends on implementation. I wake up every morning and I'm pretty sure I'm still me. I go in elevators and each time the doors open I'm still me. So, what sort of transportation experience would change that? Admittedly, the closes to teleportation I've ever felt was my first trip on a cruise ship. I went to sleep in one city, and when I opened my eyes I was suddenly in a city hundred miles away. It was mag…

I can think of an experience. The kind of teleportation in which you (or your copy) is teleported too close in time and space and the original is not destroyed. Then your copy claiming your job, your house, your wife and your children. Just as you would do. Also if the transport process takes 20 lightyears, when do you send the ACQ? Will your original walk around for 20 years and then have an automated kill switch?

>Then your copy claiming your job, your house, your wife and your children. Just as you would do.

This sounds like a great scenario to me. I'm sure I would get along just fine with a duplicate of myself, and we could live together and get a lot more done. It sure would help a lot with avoiding burnout at work: we could take turns going to work, me one month and him the next month for instance. But two of us sharing one wife might be a bit much for her, so it'd be a lot better if we brought a second woman into the mix and lived as a polyamorous foursome (though this might be easier if we could create a teleportation clone of the wife too). It'd also be great having a double to help me on house projects, hobby projects, working on a side business, etc. And you mentioned kids: having an extra adult around the house to deal with them can only be a help, and since it's actually another me and not some other person, we're guaranteed to get along, have the same views on parenting, etc.

Honestly, I don't see any downside to this situation at all.

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Post by Arizhel »

kbutler wrote: post #97
RhodesianHunter wrote: post #91

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You say that now, but when you step up to the machine with the knowledge that you are about to cease to exist, while somewhere else a perfect copy of you gets to go about living your life, I bet you change your mind.

Think about that as you're taking also tonight. Is the person that wakes up the same person?

Yes. You're not unconscious when you're asleep, you're just in an altered state of consciousness. Being actually unconscious is a very different experience; if you'd ever been through surgery with general anaesthesia you'd know about this.

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Post by Arizhel »

throwaway91111 wrote: post #60
user837387 wrote: post #44

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Didn't you use toothpaste with fluoride? Or is that not enough?

Reasearch indicates that fluorided water is better at covering the surface area of your teeth--brushing with toothpaste mostly removes the layer of plaque and allows the active ingredient to work better. It's actually phenomenal how little dental research has ever reached consumer behavior or dental care.

Instead of fluoridated water, you can always just use fluoride mouthwash/rinse which many dentists now recommend to be used daily.

Personally I only drink RO water as tap water tastes bad to me, but I use a fluoride mouthwash (Crest) every night after brushing and flossing.

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Post by funkymike »

Sophistifunk wrote: post #82
slimsag wrote: post #3

This is insanely cool, and I imagine there is no need for me to explain how useful this would be in comparison to the current dental approaches today. But is this technology ever going to be available to consumers? I remember reading about similar advancements almost three years ago and haven't heard anything related until now. Maybe I'm pessimistic, but I think we won't see this in practice for a Very Long Time™.

I distinctly remember seeing a story maybe 20 years ago about a university breeding a bacteria that out-competes the stuff in your mouth, but doesn't excrete the acid that wrecks your teeth. It was supposedly going into products that same year, but I never heard of it again.

This is what humanity really needs. The best part is that once it is out in the wild it should spread naturally, if slowly. Thus it will eventually penetrate to every human society and wipe out the current strains of the bacteria.

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Post by akiselev »

bsenftner wrote: post #177
akiselev wrote: post #174

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Its nonsense. Ozone therapy is a form of alternative medicine quackery that uses ozone generators and the FDA has cracked down on it because there's no evidence it works and the O3 gas is toxic. It is not banned by the FDA but marketing it as a clinical treatment is. In this sense all molecules that aren't approved drugs are "banned" by the FDA. If it worked, the FDA would approve it as a Class III (high risk) medica…

My buddy said they are making too much money with the rest of the world to care about kissing the bureaucrat's ass making unreasonable requests.

They're making "too much money" in the rest of the world, where most people are broke or covered by nationalized healthcare and price controls, to get their product approved in the most profitable medical device market in the world? Again, nonsense. If that were the case, pharmaceutical and biotech companies would be lining up to license the technology and to take care of regulatory approval and compliance, even if it wasn't covered by patents.

Your buddy is exploiting vulnerable consumers in less regulated markets to sell snake oil. I wonder how many people will suffer immense pain or pick up a life threatening infection because they were convinced by conartists that oxygen was a viable alternative to proper dental care and treatment.

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Post by awfgylbcxhrey »

52-6F-62 wrote: post #164
cookiecaper wrote: post #105

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Yeah, there is undoubtedly a genetic side to it. My teeth decay rapidly -- as an under-two toddler, I had to undergo full anesthesia for a dental rehabilitation. Though neither my siblings nor my parents have very bad teeth, I've always been the exception (I guess I got just the right mutation). My pediatric dentist was always expressing astonishment at how quickly my teeth decay. You know how dentists say "Hey, I ca…

I feel your pain on this one. I have a very similar problem. My parents enforced our dental care and we went to the dentist regularly when I was young. Always once a year checkup and twice a year cleaning and still I had regular dental issues. In the second grade I can recall being brought out of class to a tooth-care specialist the school brings in to teach kids who seem uncared-for to brush their teeth. I brushed t…

Have you tried oral probiotics? Mind you, I have no reason to believe they'll help you, but at this point why not?

I think I first heard about them on HN. BLIS and K12 are the keywords, if I remember correctly.

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Post by logfromblammo »

Arizhel wrote: post #183
MrQuincle wrote: post #114

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I can think of an experience. The kind of teleportation in which you (or your copy) is teleported too close in time and space and the original is not destroyed. Then your copy claiming your job, your house, your wife and your children. Just as you would do. Also if the transport process takes 20 lightyears, when do you send the ACQ? Will your original walk around for 20 years and then have an automated kill switch?

>Then your copy claiming your job, your house, your wife and your children. Just as you would do. This sounds like a great scenario to me. I'm sure I would get along just fine with a duplicate of myself, and we could live together and get a lot more done. It sure would help a lot with avoiding burnout at work: we could take turns going to work, me one month and him the next month for instance. But two of us sharing o…

I would get a lot less [productive work] done if I had an exact duplicate of myself. My spouse would be jealous and disgusted at the same time.

But I am 90% certain that if my spouse had a duplicate, they would be yelling at each other all the time.

It would be interesting to correlate answers to the question "If you had an exact duplicate, with the same body as you, the same thoughts as you, and the same memories as you up until yesterday, how would you get along?" with various aspects of psychology.

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Post by Arizhel »

logfromblammo wrote: post #189
Arizhel wrote: post #183

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>Then your copy claiming your job, your house, your wife and your children. Just as you would do. This sounds like a great scenario to me. I'm sure I would get along just fine with a duplicate of myself, and we could live together and get a lot more done. It sure would help a lot with avoiding burnout at work: we could take turns going to work, me one month and him the next month for instance. But two of us sharing o…

I would get a lot less [productive work] done if I had an exact duplicate of myself. My spouse would be jealous and disgusted at the same time. But I am 90% certain that if my spouse had a duplicate, they would be yelling at each other all the time. It would be interesting to correlate answers to the question "If you had an exact duplicate, with the same body as you, the same thoughts as you, and the same memories as…

The only problem I see here with your question is that no one really knows the answer, they can only speculate. I, for instance, think that I'd get along just great with my duplicate, and that we'd work together on getting more stuff done and enjoying more free time as a result. But I don't really know that; it's not like I've tried it before.

Why would your spouse be jealous of your clone? She'd now have two of you, so she's more likely to get attention when she wants it.

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