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Re: From OS X to Ubuntu

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Post by pawadu »

hobarrera wrote: post #196
willismichael wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh come on, I've been a Linux enthusiast for over a decade now and it's been years since I've even touched xorg.conf, installed a kernel that didn't come from a standard repo, or had trouble rebooting due to a change I made to the system. Linux has gotten significantly less painful over the years, and it's not just that I'm more familiar with it now. Installing a mainstream distro these days is easier than the last t…

My life has been great these last years, and mostly due to this: https://xkcd.com/963/

What distros are you people using? Mine doesn't even come with xorg.conf anymore.

(with that said, cant wait for Wayland to finally happen)

I have a news for you people: some distros

Re: From OS X to Ubuntu

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Post by pawadu »

CarVac wrote: post #86
contingencies wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can virtualize or dual-boot if your photography workflow is anything like mine (mostly huge, batch-oriented). You can even use eg. VMWare unity mode to right-click to open in Lightroom in a virtualized windows or OSX instance. Performance won't be perfect but it's definitely good enough. Less so for video editing. Personally the bigger irritation has been printer drivers. I have a Canon Pixma Pro 1 which has no d…

Printing is perfectly fine with Epson printers.

At work we have an old HP printer that only worked with linux out of the box. Windows 8 needed drivers to be downloaded and even than couldn't print duplex. OSX people had similar problems.

Windows 10 worked really smoothly on the other hand. And now that it has a proper shell I am starting to like Windows again...

Re: From OS X to Ubuntu

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Post by tyfon »

sk1pper wrote: post #31

IMO if money isn't an object, OS X is a better call when it comes to laptops. If money is tight, going for a Linux box is almost as good. Linux on desktops - as in, not a laptop - has worked pretty much flawlessly for me for >10 years. Not much else to say there. If desktop or server, this shouldn't be a discussion. As far as laptops go, I've just had better experiences with macbooks. Linux on a laptop is still 100%…

I replaced my work laptop last friday with a new IBM x260. Everyting just works.

The wireless range is insane too.

Even the built in LTE modem "Just works" with networkmanager/modemmanager.. it's awesome.

I had to install one piece of software though, and that was fprintd (to use the fingerprint reader) and add a line to a pam.d file to use it.

The _only_ thing that has not worked yet is the Fn+F4 to sleep however it is a keyboard scancode thing as the laptop immedately goes to sleep when i close the lid and wakes when I open it again (without _any_ issues).

Oh.. and in bios I swapped the control and Fn keys as not having control all he way to the left was driving me insane!

Re: From OS X to Ubuntu

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Post by terrywang »

terrywang wrote: post #113

Linux? Desktop? Different answer from different people. For me I've always been optimistic. Linux as desktop offers choices and freedom. I've been running Linux as my main desktop since Fedora Core 1 (you can count). Overall the kernel and desktop environments (window managers) are getting better (especially KDE). Of course, there has been learning curves and all sort of frustration, many weird problems to attack but…

With regard to Power Management

TLP may be useful for people who run Linux on laptops TLP – Linux Advanced Power Management http://linrunner.de/tlp https://github.com/linrunner/TLP

Laptop Mode Tools is the then standard way of power saving, not sure if it is obsolete now. https://github.com/rickysarraf/laptop-mode-tools

In addition, Intel's PowerTop and other stuff on 01.org can also be useful if running on Intel architecture (GPU).

I had been running Ubuntu 8.04, 10.04 12.04 on Dell Latitude D630 and E6410 (suspend to memory worked fine `pm-suspend` and then `systemctl suspend`) for several years, during that period of time laptop mainly sat on docking station as a desktop so I couldn't care less about power management, performance was first priority (e.g. no HDD spin-down `hdparm -B 254 /dev/sdX`, no swap devices, vm.swappiness=1 etc...).

HTH

Re: From OS X to Ubuntu

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Post by colemickens »

naibafo wrote: post #273
colemickens wrote: post #254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not only that, I don't even run X as my root display server. Sure, XWayland is around, but only because of Chromium apps (`google-chrome-unstable`, `visual-studio-code-nightly-bin`, `slack-desktop`, `riot-web`). And the best part is, Wayland (Ozone) support is already in Chromium, it's just not really enabled right now.

sadly I have yet to come across a functioning tiling window manager for wayland.

Sway (written in C, I contributed the libinput config), Way-Cooler (written in Rust, if of any interest) and Orbment all ride on top of 'wlc'. They're all at least somewhat functional. I think there's a few others but I haven't tried any of them.

Re: From OS X to Ubuntu

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Post by iSnow »

sk1pper wrote: post #31

IMO if money isn't an object, OS X is a better call when it comes to laptops. If money is tight, going for a Linux box is almost as good. Linux on desktops - as in, not a laptop - has worked pretty much flawlessly for me for >10 years. Not much else to say there. If desktop or server, this shouldn't be a discussion. As far as laptops go, I've just had better experiences with macbooks. Linux on a laptop is still 100%…

I just bought a laptop to switch my aging mother from Windows Vista to something I could remote administer more easily. Bought one of the laptops from the "Ubuntu certified" site and most everything just worked out of the box, including audio and Wifi.

I'll probably be switching from Macs to either Linux Mint or Elementary OS once the new XPS 15" are out.

Re: From OS X to Ubuntu

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Post by pawadu »

dirtyhenry wrote: post #258

My main point to stick to macOS is the lack of any solid alternative to Xcode for iOS development. For a non-development environment, I think Raspbian provides a good enough experience. #stuckForever

This is because Apple wants to lock you in. It is your choice to stay with the platform or get out.

Fun fact: if you remote login into a OSX machine you wont be allowed to build and publish iOS apps. Apple has disabled that on purpose. Think about that for a minute!

Re: From OS X to Ubuntu

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Post by pawadu »

Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #95

In my humble opinion, OSX : Productivity, Linux : Development, Windows : Games I've been with all of these for all my computing life & still doing the same. OSX/macOS is great for anyone who doesn't want to meddle with their system, especially if you use iDevices. Though developers have historically liked OSX, it could be apt for web development or anything non resource consuming (like java/android). For e.g I symlin…

> OSX/macOS is great for anyone who doesn't want to meddle with their system

We use ubuntu for that here. Outside adding your own dotfiles the machines are completely untouched. Works like a charm.

Okay, I admit I have also changed my desktop background ;)

Re: From OS X to Ubuntu

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Post by innocenat »

thewhitetulip wrote: post #251
sk1pper wrote: post #31

IMO if money isn't an object, OS X is a better call when it comes to laptops. If money is tight, going for a Linux box is almost as good. Linux on desktops - as in, not a laptop - has worked pretty much flawlessly for me for >10 years. Not much else to say there. If desktop or server, this shouldn't be a discussion. As far as laptops go, I've just had better experiences with macbooks. Linux on a laptop is still 100%…

I never had any complaints with Linux on laptop except battery life, it sucks. MacBooks have a battery life of at least 8hrs, my 2012 model has a battery life of 8hrs, I have to charge it once a week, since I don't use it for more than 2hrs daily.

I cannot compare to Mac, but my laptop running vanilla Ubuntu with default config of tlp is at least as good as, or better than, Windows 10.

Re: From OS X to Ubuntu

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Post by aruggirello »

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