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'Tooth repair drug' may replace fillings

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Re: 'Tooth repair drug' may replace fillings

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Post by greggman »

Cerium wrote: post #95
RhodesianHunter wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You say that now, but when you step up to the machine with the knowledge that you are about to cease to exist, while somewhere else a perfect copy of you gets to go about living your life, I bet you change your mind.

I think it depends on implementation. I wake up every morning and I'm pretty sure I'm still me. I go in elevators and each time the doors open I'm still me. So, what sort of transportation experience would change that? Admittedly, the closes to teleportation I've ever felt was my first trip on a cruise ship. I went to sleep in one city, and when I opened my eyes I was suddenly in a city hundred miles away. It was mag…

Here's a great old animation on this topic

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pdxucpPq6Lc

Re: 'Tooth repair drug' may replace fillings

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Post by Johnythree »

kalleboo wrote: post #59
hackits wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would of liked to been told `Nothing is going to come on the market` instead of `All this wonderful technology is going to solve any problems you're going to have`. The latter results in careless behavior, the former results more careful behavior. Personally as someone as a kid was going up out-back Australia who's parents and care giver didn't put fluoride tablets into the water because it caused the water to `tas…

Most of Europe and Japan doesn't fluoridate their water and they don't have notably worse dental outcomes. It really has to do with toothbrushing and diet. Water fluoridation is just a way to get to the people who refuse to brush their teeth.

You are completely missing the point. Many areas already have sufficient fluoride.

It depends on the natural amount of fluorine in the water, if there's sufficient, then it's fine.

It's only in the relatively few areas where there is a deficiency that it's a problem.

And of course it also depends on diet.

Offsetting your claim are studies which show that where people exclusively drink rain water, there is a higher incidence of tooth decay.

Re: 'Tooth repair drug' may replace fillings

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Post by MrQuincle »

Cerium wrote: post #95
RhodesianHunter wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You say that now, but when you step up to the machine with the knowledge that you are about to cease to exist, while somewhere else a perfect copy of you gets to go about living your life, I bet you change your mind.

I think it depends on implementation. I wake up every morning and I'm pretty sure I'm still me. I go in elevators and each time the doors open I'm still me. So, what sort of transportation experience would change that? Admittedly, the closes to teleportation I've ever felt was my first trip on a cruise ship. I went to sleep in one city, and when I opened my eyes I was suddenly in a city hundred miles away. It was mag…

I can think of an experience. The kind of teleportation in which you (or your copy) is teleported too close in time and space and the original is not destroyed.

Then your copy claiming your job, your house, your wife and your children. Just as you would do.

Also if the transport process takes 20 lightyears, when do you send the ACQ? Will your original walk around for 20 years and then have an automated kill switch?

Re: 'Tooth repair drug' may replace fillings

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Post by mikekchar »

brandon272 wrote: post #10
slimsag wrote: post #3

This is insanely cool, and I imagine there is no need for me to explain how useful this would be in comparison to the current dental approaches today. But is this technology ever going to be available to consumers? I remember reading about similar advancements almost three years ago and haven't heard anything related until now. Maybe I'm pessimistic, but I think we won't see this in practice for a Very Long Time™.

I actually find these articles depressing because it seems like nothing like this ever ultimately comes to fruition. I'm guessing these "breakthroughs" have always been just around the corner. I recall having a conversation with my dentist almost 20 years ago about things that were up and coming that were about to make our lives a lot easier in terms of saving and strengthening and building tooth enamel but none of w…

On the plus side, drug patents are 20 years, so there is considerable incentive to get something out the door somewhere in that time frame. Hmm... maybe I'm not so anti-patent as I thought ;-)

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Post by adrianN »

raquo wrote: post #106
Cerium wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it depends on implementation. I wake up every morning and I'm pretty sure I'm still me. I go in elevators and each time the doors open I'm still me. So, what sort of transportation experience would change that? Admittedly, the closes to teleportation I've ever felt was my first trip on a cruise ship. I went to sleep in one city, and when I opened my eyes I was suddenly in a city hundred miles away. It was mag…

Well, sleep and cruise ships don't destroy and copy your body. Teleportation would be equivalent to being killed the way I see it, until we get a better understanding of conscience at least.

Your body slowly replaces itself. I'm reasonably sure that when you die you have replaced almost all of its atoms at least once.

Re: 'Tooth repair drug' may replace fillings

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Post by robbiep »

stplsd wrote: post #80
kalleboo wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of Europe and Japan doesn't fluoridate their water and they don't have notably worse dental outcomes. It really has to do with toothbrushing and diet. Water fluoridation is just a way to get to the people who refuse to brush their teeth.

I think genetics have a part too. My grandmother was deported to Siberia ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_deportations_from_Lithu... ) for 20 years where they have 200 grams of bread a day at best and never brushed her teeth in her life and never had a tooth filling or missing tooth before her retirement, and I have half my teeth missing and I am only 30 years old. Fuck my life.

So ¼ of your genetic material had a diet in which she never had a filling, and you on a different diet at age of 30 are missing many teeth, and you conclude that it's genetics?

Either some leap of logic or information is missing there or you're drawing the wrong conclusion from your data

Re: 'Tooth repair drug' may replace fillings

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Post by adrianN »

stplsd wrote: post #80
kalleboo wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of Europe and Japan doesn't fluoridate their water and they don't have notably worse dental outcomes. It really has to do with toothbrushing and diet. Water fluoridation is just a way to get to the people who refuse to brush their teeth.

I think genetics have a part too. My grandmother was deported to Siberia ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_deportations_from_Lithu... ) for 20 years where they have 200 grams of bread a day at best and never brushed her teeth in her life and never had a tooth filling or missing tooth before her retirement, and I have half my teeth missing and I am only 30 years old. Fuck my life.

I think your oral microbiome is also important. I've heard about experimental treatments which replace the cavity causing bacteria with other strains that don't produce acids.

Re: 'Tooth repair drug' may replace fillings

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Post by robbiep »

hackits wrote: post #22
brandon272 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually find these articles depressing because it seems like nothing like this ever ultimately comes to fruition. I'm guessing these "breakthroughs" have always been just around the corner. I recall having a conversation with my dentist almost 20 years ago about things that were up and coming that were about to make our lives a lot easier in terms of saving and strengthening and building tooth enamel but none of w…

I would of liked to been told `Nothing is going to come on the market` instead of `All this wonderful technology is going to solve any problems you're going to have`. The latter results in careless behavior, the former results more careful behavior. Personally as someone as a kid was going up out-back Australia who's parents and care giver didn't put fluoride tablets into the water because it caused the water to `tas…

I grew up in rural Australia, my parents fed us fluoride tablets when we were young. 1-2 fillings between 3 siblings, although I'm fairly sure our bore had a bit of fluoride in it.

I'm sorry you missed out on that, teeth problems are shitty

Re: 'Tooth repair drug' may replace fillings

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Post by amelius »

eganist wrote: post #84
astrodust wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It takes a lot of time to turn a laboratory discovery into a reliably working prototype, then longer still for the industry to agree on standards and branding, and even longer to ramp up mass-manufacturing and get the distribution chain working. We could discover teleportation tomorrow morning and it would be twenty years before teleporters were common-place. Everything takes time to be fully realized. If you want to…

> We could discover teleportation tomorrow morning and it would be twenty years before teleporters were common-place. Everything takes time to be fully realized. I can appreciate this example, though in the specific context of teleportation, there'll probably be a few decades tacked on to resolve the ethical dilemmas arising from the question of whether or not the person arriving out of the other end is in fact the s…

Teleportation will not happen soon, if only because we've invested too much in autonomous cars already.
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