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Re: H-1B Visas: U.S. Lawmaker Re-Introduces Bill to Tighten Rules

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Post by gdilla »

usaphp wrote: post #246
throwaway2017ab wrote: post #222

I was a full time H1B employee at AMEX for 3 years. Its not only the Indian outsourcing firms who abuse the H1B visa system. All American companies including AMEX also do that. The company never even had plans to give me a promotion, not even increase my salary a bit even though I worked hard than the Americans for 3 years !. They pretty well knew I was an indentured servant and paid me 79K/annum. All salary raises a…

> "I worked hard than the Americans for 3 years !. They pretty well knew I was an indentured servant and paid me 79K/annum. All salary raises and promotions were going to a handful of lazy Americans who rolls into the office whenever they wish." You seem to have a pretty aggressive attitude towards people whose country gave you job and paid much more than you were making in your home country. You also seem to have a…

god forbid wanting to be treated fairly!

Re: H-1B Visas: U.S. Lawmaker Re-Introduces Bill to Tighten Rules

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Post by smb06 »

shas3 wrote: post #186
smb06 wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What company is going to sponsor H1B visa for anyone that costs $100,000 and isn't a Comp Sc grad in the Bay Area? There are a LOT of other professions where H1B visa holders add a lot of value to the US economy. It's not just CS grads in SF.

Bay Area is not just software. There are big pharma companies, financial firms, non-software roles in software companies, etc.

Exactly. But the bill in its current form will discriminate against non-CS degree holders.

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Post by ashwinaj »

suryacom wrote: post #178
winter_blue wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are actually wrong about the 15 days. It's actually zero (0) days, according to USCIS: "There is no automatic 10-day or other grace period for terminated employees holding H-1B status, so once the individual is no longer in a lawful nonimmigrant status, he/she usually must depart from the United States." See: https://www.uscis.gov/tools/ombudsman-liaison/practical-immi... However, if your I-94 is still valid, bei…

I have crossed 6 years on H1B. So, if I change my job, maximum visa extension I can get is for 3 years (provided my employer was kind enough to give me a copy of the I-140 petition). This is where it gets tricky. Within this 3 years I need to get a new PERM approved by the new employer. So, say I set aside 1 year for the new employer to get all the internal budgeting approvals and initiate my GC process. Then it take…

> Within this 3 years I need to get a new PERM approved by the new employer.

I was able to transfer two jobs using the I140 from my first job. My case is clearly not an outlier.

> Now, god forbid, if the PERM gets denied due to clerical error. There is not time left for another try. Pretty much pack-up and leave.

No, you can use your old I140 to extend your H1B for another 3 years (when I changed jobs, that's what I did)

Re: H-1B Visas: U.S. Lawmaker Re-Introduces Bill to Tighten Rules

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Post by randseq »

general_ai wrote: post #221

Long time reader, first time poster. Both lawmakers being Califoria democrats, I don't trust this one bit. Hear me out on this one. I have actually experienced the H1B system on my own hide. As others have mentioned in the comments, today H1B is basically indentured servitude visa. While theoretically you can move to another job, few people dare, especially if they have families, because in case of any screwup whatso…

Factual correction (per first sentence of the article): Issa is a republican and the sponsor of the bill.

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Post by yalogin »

H1B is to hire from other countries because there is shortage of skilled people in the US. If that is the case, why not make the minimum salary 2 times (or some moderately unreasonable) amount the normal prevailing wage. The companies already abuse the previaling wage. So making the minimum 2-3 times is still OK.

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Post by c517402 »

IIRC this report[1] says the schools in Dodge City, KS are having funding problems because 86% of the students come to school not speaking English and have to be taught English. This is because the meat-packing industry imports most of its labor. Please explain to me why foreigner workers are needed to trim meat off of beef carcasses.

Maybe everything isn't about coding.

[1] https://news.vice.com/story/kansas-school-funding-crisis

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Post by Clubber »

rodgerd wrote: post #150

Always entertaining watching the HN zeitgeist on H-1Bs or offshoring of tech jobs and contrasting it with the attitude to, say, the elimination of millions of trucking or retail jobs.

Most of the opinions I read consider the eliminating millions of trucking jobs would be horrible for the middle class and are for a living wage to attempt to combat it.

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Post by copperx »

codeonfire wrote: post #223
lutorm wrote: post #22

I wonder if the $100k would apply to academic H1B's too. If so, that's pretty much the end of those.

What is an "academic H1B?" Students get a F1 visa, people with real credentials get a J-1 or O-1 visa.

An H1B with no caps. Colleges have no caps.

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Post by harigov »

nugget wrote: post #86
davidw wrote: post #39

Why not take a courageous approach and let people in who want to work? Don't tie them to one job. Don't pick arbitrary numbers of the 'right' number of immigrants. Don't try ever more complex schemes based on where people live and what job they do. Keep the government involved to vet them in terms of avoiding criminals, and let the market handle how many people to bring in, not government bureaucrats and politicians.…

One challenge is that people who grew up in America have totally different expectations in terms of quality of life and living standards than immigrants from poor countries who are willing to move here and start from scratch. A poor kid from India or China might move to Silicon Valley or NYC and spend a decade sharing a studio with 4-5 others in his/her situation, just for the chance to escape poverty back home. Is i…

Would you use the same reasoning when selling American products in foreign markets? Folks from poor countries struggle with lack of facilities/nutrition and try to produce some stuff in competition with those with better facilities/lives from US and have to compete in the same marketplace head-on. Both of them have advantages/disadvantages but one group has the strength to push others in the form of trade rules. So why should we have free trade in the form of goods but not in the form of labor?
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