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From OS X to Ubuntu
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Re: From OS X to Ubuntu
#162IMO if money isn't an object, OS X is a better call when it comes to laptops. If money is tight, going for a Linux box is almost as good. Linux on desktops - as in, not a laptop - has worked pretty much flawlessly for me for >10 years. Not much else to say there. If desktop or server, this shouldn't be a discussion. As far as laptops go, I've just had better experiences with macbooks. Linux on a laptop is still 100%…
Linux laptops: buy pre-installed. If you want linux and you want to be sure everything is functional, AND you don't want to devote lots of time to a "project" buy a pre-install. Dell Developer Edition laptops (XPS 13, 15) make great laptops. I hear good things about system 76 and purism as well. Save time. Support having good laptops and good drivers. Buy pre-installed. Paying the "windows tax" and installing a Linux…
This is Linux laptop buying in a nutshell.
Used a nice little laptop for years in college. I kept fighting it on the headphone jack. It would not recognize when it was plugged in, or the sound did not work period. Hot keys would not work. Etc, etc. Besides that, everyone would always comment on what a nice little laptop it was as I ran it into the ground.
When it died I bounced from HP (horrible, came with AMD graphics that would overheat and AMD cut support for a month later, while still selling them) and then Dell (mostly horrible, but due to Sandy Bridge having horrible graphics support, the Dell had a short power cord, the USB shorted out)
Got System76 Lemur, it was like my old laptop, very small, very quiet, hardware switches for wifi, brightness & turning off screen so they would work. Ivy Bridge would freeze X if I closed and opened the lid enough, but that disappeared with the next version of Ubuntu. Similar issue with Skylake Lemur, went away when I used Manjaro with Mesa 13.
There is a small premium vs Dell or HP systems, but those are Dell and HP systems. You get what you pay for. Loud, poorly design pieces of crap (at least when I bought them). If you are willing to drop a grand and a half on a Macbook you would still save money on a System76.
Re: From OS X to Ubuntu
#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Save time. Support having good laptops and good drivers. Buy pre-installed. Paying the "windows tax" and installing a Linux on a windows laptop isn't just more work, it is bad for the ecosystem. I wish I could. Unfortunately, I live in a country (Taiwan) where no one knows about Linux. It's impossible to buy a pre-installed Linux laptop here. You know the most ironic part? My job here is to certify hardware (includ…
I had the same issue I live in Australia I bought a XPS 13 from dell (same laptop as developer edition) I had not choice but to have Windows 10 preinstalled. No idea why they made the OS choice region locked...
The XPS 13 has a different wireless chipset than the developer edition. The only way to get the same chipset in Australia is in the Precision line.
Re: From OS X to Ubuntu
#164If only Linux had decent image editors... I would have made the jump years ago, but Gimp and Inkscape ain't just cutting it.
For years I ran Windows in a VM on a Linux desktop and used Photoshop that way. Very easy solution and the mouse controls for interacting with the VM were awesome too; it was about as close to a native window as you could get.
Re: From OS X to Ubuntu
#165Disclaimer: I have been using Linux as my main OS for many years now....
However, I actually agree with a lot of the below, the alternative programs on Linux aren't up to scratch with tools people build their livelihood on (Illustrator, Photoshop, Sketch etc).
But the opposite is true also, I find development painful on OSX, I get pissed when starting with a new company and they assume I want a Mac. My stack is LAMP, it's what the servers run, its what I want to run on my local development machine as well.
I am currently on Windows / Virtualbox with a full desktop version of Ubuntu 16.04 and its a great setup, best of both worlds, I can develop natively and if there is anything I need to do that is beyond the capabilities of any Linux Replacements (e.g I had to some pretty heavy vector editing the other day), I have Windows available just a minimise away!
Re: From OS X to Ubuntu
#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
Linux laptops: buy pre-installed. If you want linux and you want to be sure everything is functional, AND you don't want to devote lots of time to a "project" buy a pre-install. Dell Developer Edition laptops (XPS 13, 15) make great laptops. I hear good things about system 76 and purism as well. Save time. Support having good laptops and good drivers. Buy pre-installed. Paying the "windows tax" and installing a Linux…
> Save time. Support having good laptops and good drivers. Buy pre-installed. Paying the "windows tax" and installing a Linux on a windows laptop isn't just more work, it is bad for the ecosystem. I wish I could. Unfortunately, I live in a country (Taiwan) where no one knows about Linux. It's impossible to buy a pre-installed Linux laptop here. You know the most ironic part? My job here is to certify hardware (includ…
There was another post on hackernews today about some new Dell ubuntu-based workstations[1]. The webpage that the post refers to mentions worldwide availability, so maybe dell might be an option for you at some point?
[1]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13360339
Also, it looks like that their ubuntu edition and the windows edition of XPS-13 come with the same wireless cards this year (It used to be broadcom on windows, intel on ubuntu versions), so there might less differences between the two this time around.
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#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
I had the same issue I live in Australia I bought a XPS 13 from dell (same laptop as developer edition) I had not choice but to have Windows 10 preinstalled. No idea why they made the OS choice region locked...
The XPS 13 has a different wireless chipset than the developer edition. The only way to get the same chipset in Australia is in the Precision line.
The xps 13 this year seems to have the same wireless chip on both windows and developer editions. They both seem to have the same killer wireless chip.
Developer edition xps13: http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-13-9360-laptop/pd?3x_n...
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#168Sure it's possible to use Linux on the desktop. It's also possible to find some laptops that are well supported. Do I want to replace Lightroom, Sketch, Pixelmator, 1Password and Alfred with inferior replacements? No, because my livelihood depends on good tools and I think it's fair to pay money for them.
I find it difficult to believe that your livelihood depends solely on the specific combination of apps you mentioned. It doesn't even seem like you've actually tried any of these apps yet call them inferior? Inferior how? That's quite an elitist stance to portray without the specifics to back it up here.
My livelihood doesn't depend on Lightroom but I don't want a laptop that only does a subset of my computing.
I've tried darktabke and the UI is a mess, same with Gimp. A lot of open source software is unpolished and lacking in documentation. If that is elitist so be it.
Re: From OS X to Ubuntu
#169Sure it's possible to use Linux on the desktop. It's also possible to find some laptops that are well supported. Do I want to replace Lightroom, Sketch, Pixelmator, 1Password and Alfred with inferior replacements? No, because my livelihood depends on good tools and I think it's fair to pay money for them.
FWIW Figma is quickly becoming a great replacement for Sketch. And I think Adobe is working on cloud equivalents for many of their offerings, so when those are ready at least some of your concerns will be removed. 1Password definitely has replacements that aren't inferior. Alfred is OS specific tuning and you can easily get settings you enjoy on your Linux desktop.
And yet Linux is missing a lot of high quality commercial software.
Even if all my software ran on Linux I still wouldn't have the peace of mind that walking in a store and buying an Apple laptop offers. I would have to research models or order and wait for an XPS to arrive in order to have a machine that is sure to work.
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#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
The XPS 13 has a different wireless chipset than the developer edition. The only way to get the same chipset in Australia is in the Precision line.
The xps 13 this year seems to have the same wireless chip on both windows and developer editions. They both seem to have the same killer wireless chip. Developer edition xps13: http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-13-9360-laptop/pd?3x_n...
yes the 9360 is exact same model I purchased in Aus.