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H-1B Visas: U.S. Lawmaker Re-Introduces Bill to Tighten Rules

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Re: H-1B Visas: U.S. Lawmaker Re-Introduces Bill to Tighten Rules

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I wonder if the $100k would apply to academic H1B's too. If so, that's pretty much the end of those.

What is an "academic H1B?" Students get a F1 visa, people with real credentials get a J-1 or O-1 visa.

The J1 isn't comparable to the H1B – it's a 12 month visa which must be started within 12 months of graduation. There's also no suggestion of working in academia on a J1 – it's the "intern" visa. I'm on it now in San Francisco, with a view to getting a H1B.

Re: H-1B Visas: U.S. Lawmaker Re-Introduces Bill to Tighten Rules

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We need to open our borders and let anyone who wants to come live and work in the US come here. Fear of foreigners is a poison in the heart of this country. Previous generations of immigrants have made the US what it is. The H1B program benefits the companies at the expense of the people for b.s. reasons. I say let anyone come here who wants to and if they can hold a job for 5 years and they pay taxes make them a cit…

This is a dangerous idea.

Let everyone in, and then watch housing prices shoot to infinity.

Let everyone in, and watch cities deteriorate into slums with the associated no-go areas and warlords.

Let everyone in, let them drive wages to zero. Let everyone starve.

This is what you're advocating?

> Previous generations of immigrants have made the US what it is.

Previous generations had a physical barrier in the form of transportation costs to the US. Today, we have airplanes and autos. Transportation costs are a fraction of what they were in the Ellis Island era.

Have you seen the housing situation in Rio? The food lines in Venezuela? The intense poverty in India? The pollution in China?

We don't have the technological or social controls to handle the affects of high population density that would be the result of accepting your Open Borders proposal.

Re: H-1B Visas: U.S. Lawmaker Re-Introduces Bill to Tighten Rules

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Oh, and while you're on it.. don't lose that Green Card! It costs about $27 in Cali to get a dup of your lost DL [1]; while your Green Card replacement costs... $450! [2] [1] http://www.dmv.org/ca-california/replace-license.php [2] https://www.bridge.us/articles/misplace-green-card/ Its very obvious USCIS prays on the fact that most immigrants do not make enough money to actually hire (expensive) lawyer and take them…

> take them to the court On the base of what, though? It's well known that the USCIS is mostly self sustained (e.g. minimal government funding) so that money has to come from somewhere. I believe the thought is that getting a visa/permanent residency is considered a privilege, not a right.

> On the base of what, though?

If they were only the first to be taken to the court for outrages fees.

> It's well known that the USCIS is mostly self sustained

They are part of DHS; therefore founded through DHS that is government founded.

> I believe the thought is that getting a visa/permanent residency is considered a privilege, not a right.

What does this have to do with losing or getting your GC stolen? As long as they can prove it costs around $450 to product a piece of plastic, they are fine in my book.

Re: H-1B Visas: U.S. Lawmaker Re-Introduces Bill to Tighten Rules

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I'm not sure about the bidding war. I've been in situations where companies are looking for people with specific skills (e.g. working with specific microbiology techniques) but would never be able to outbid what Facebook or someone in Bay Area would pay for generalist skills in another field. There is nowhere close to 100% elasticity in wages to make an auction system fair. Also, this would handicap companies in low-…

I'm not sure that I'm sympathetic to employers who want to pay less. Keep in mind, the US takes in well over a million immigrants a year, and has a huge internal workforce. The H1B was created to help employers find critical and highly skilled workers that are in desperately short supply in the US. "Oh, but we can't afford to pay them a lot of money, that's not fair!" isn't the sort of argument that tends to evoke mu…

Its stupid to begin with, if you can't fill a skill, train somebody, the federal government does this for gigs that require security clearance. You never need to go outside the country for talent. The h1b program enables age discrimination, once you hit 40 you are pushed out for young immigrant labor, the position was occupied but they want to save money so out you go to poverty just when the IRS was counting on you hitting your peak earning power. Now people peak out at 28 in earning power with the extreme levels of age discrimination we see today.

Re: H-1B Visas: U.S. Lawmaker Re-Introduces Bill to Tighten Rules

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I was a full time H1B employee at AMEX for 3 years. Its not only the Indian outsourcing firms who abuse the H1B visa system. All American companies including AMEX also do that. The company never even had plans to give me a promotion, not even increase my salary a bit even though I worked hard than the Americans for 3 years !. They pretty well knew I was an indentured servant and paid me 79K/annum. All salary raises a…

> "I worked hard than the Americans for 3 years !. They pretty well knew I was an indentured servant and paid me 79K/annum. All salary raises and promotions were going to a handful of lazy Americans who rolls into the office whenever they wish."

You seem to have a pretty aggressive attitude towards people whose country gave you job and paid much more than you were making in your home country. You also seem to have a measure of how hard someone works based on when they come to work, in tech it's who works smartest not hardest is the most valuable.

> "I am happy I broke out this modern slavery system"

Did Americans force you to come to states and work for them? It was your decision and you were always free to go and find something better in a different country if you wished.

Re: H-1B Visas: U.S. Lawmaker Re-Introduces Bill to Tighten Rules

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post #72

We need to open our borders and let anyone who wants to come live and work in the US come here. Fear of foreigners is a poison in the heart of this country. Previous generations of immigrants have made the US what it is. The H1B program benefits the companies at the expense of the people for b.s. reasons. I say let anyone come here who wants to and if they can hold a job for 5 years and they pay taxes make them a cit…

> We need to open our borders and let anyone who wants to come live and work in the US come here.

No, we don't. As well as the fact that there are genuine undesirables that should be denied entry, there are costs associated with level of immigration that need to be addressed.

There are, I think, clearly better ways of dealing with that than the particulars of our current system of categories and quotas, and the best would not, IMO, have hard limitd, but immigration with no controls is not a reasonable answer.

Re: H-1B Visas: U.S. Lawmaker Re-Introduces Bill to Tighten Rules

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure that I'm sympathetic to employers who want to pay less. Keep in mind, the US takes in well over a million immigrants a year, and has a huge internal workforce. The H1B was created to help employers find critical and highly skilled workers that are in desperately short supply in the US. "Oh, but we can't afford to pay them a lot of money, that's not fair!" isn't the sort of argument that tends to evoke mu…

Its stupid to begin with, if you can't fill a skill, train somebody, the federal government does this for gigs that require security clearance. You never need to go outside the country for talent. The h1b program enables age discrimination, once you hit 40 you are pushed out for young immigrant labor, the position was occupied but they want to save money so out you go to poverty just when the IRS was counting on you…

> You never need to go outside the country for talent.

I'm a natural-born citizen with plenty of friends who were unlucky to be born elsewhere. I want to work with them.

Can't the government accommodate my simple desire to work with my friends locally?

Re: H-1B Visas: U.S. Lawmaker Re-Introduces Bill to Tighten Rules

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post #72

We need to open our borders and let anyone who wants to come live and work in the US come here. Fear of foreigners is a poison in the heart of this country. Previous generations of immigrants have made the US what it is. The H1B program benefits the companies at the expense of the people for b.s. reasons. I say let anyone come here who wants to and if they can hold a job for 5 years and they pay taxes make them a cit…

This is a dangerous idea. Let everyone in, and then watch housing prices shoot to infinity. Let everyone in, and watch cities deteriorate into slums with the associated no-go areas and warlords. Let everyone in, let them drive wages to zero. Let everyone starve. This is what you're advocating? > Previous generations of immigrants have made the US what it is. Previous generations had a physical barrier in the form of…

Your xenophobia is really sad.

The US won't turn into Venezuela, Brazil or China because immigrants come here.

Additionally, jobs won't go to zero because more population creates more demand for goods and services which necessitates more jobs.

This same absurd argument you're making was used to stoke fears about Irish and Italian immigrants in the past. Now we realize how stupid it was then. It's just as stupid now.

Re: H-1B Visas: U.S. Lawmaker Re-Introduces Bill to Tighten Rules

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What you mean by you are a risk taker? You have no idea what you are comparing here. Will you risk your family getting deported due to a clerical error? Once H1B lose his job, he and his family has to leave the country in 15 days. Sell his house, pull kids out from school, etc. All this arises whenever H1B tries to change the job.

> Once H1B lose his job, he and his family has to leave the country in 15 days This is not true in practice. There is a rule saying that, but it has never been enforced. As long as you don't leave the country, you'll have no problem looking for a new job for however long that takes. At least that's what my immigration lawyer told me many years ago.

Isn't betting on it risky? I'm afraid that you may get rejected reentry next time if USCIS notices your overstay, unless you never leave the country, of course, but you never know, don't you (family emergency etc.)?
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