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Yahoo SEC Filing: Name change to Altaba Inc and director resignations

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Re: Yahoo SEC Filing: Name change to Altaba Inc and director resignations

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Rather than the inevitable bashing of Marissa that will undoubtedly unfurl on this thread, I'd like to put in a little reminder that we usually celebrate taking on big projects and big risks and that we should commend her for taking on the immense challenge of steadying the Yahoo ship. Yes, she wasn't able to keep the ship from sinking. But I do think she put in a good-faith effort.

She raided the company, she did nothing good

Re: Yahoo SEC Filing: Name change to Altaba Inc and director resignations

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Altaba is just a investment company. The operating business will be sold to Verizon (if Verizon doesn't back out), and the money from the sale goes to Altaba. At that point Altaba ought to liquidate and divide the money among the shareholders, but the management may try to invest in other things to justify their jobs.

Re: Yahoo SEC Filing: Name change to Altaba Inc and director resignations

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If you have $200 million in the bank, why do you need any further C-level position? Hell, give me $20 million and I'll take that risk.

$2 million

You would be a better CEO than me off the bat. You just saved the company $198 million.

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I think there is absolutely no indication that anybody, other than Jesus Christ himself descending from the skies mounted on a Harley Davidson in flames, could have saved Yahoo. So, bashing Marissa here would be really, really pointless and sad.

I don't think that is true. In 2012 Yahoo had $5B a year in revenue and was the second most visited property on the web. When Thompson stepped down the board were given two proposals. The first, revive Yahoo as a premium tech firm lead by someone like Mayer, or 2. admit that Yahoo is now a media co and double down on the verticals where Yahoo is winning - especially those where you can sell premium ads (Finance, Spor…

I was surprised to learn at a conference in October that America Online still exists(!), and this (media) is the route that they took. Apparently they own the Huffington Post and Engadget now.

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Steve Jobs worked himself to the bone and took zero money for years when he was trying to save Apple. That's what a good faith effort looks like. If he had failed he would have wasted years and got nothing in return. If Mayer had done this I would be impressed. But Mayer had no vision, didn't put in the effort required, and milked Yahoo for a hundred million dollars she didn't earn. Silicon Valley loves failure like…

Not sure why a "good faith effort" requires taking such a crazy amount of personal risk. Yahoo was willing to pay millions to the exec they thought had the best chance to turn the company around. She should have declined that and and unnecessarily played on Extra Hard mode instead?

You don't think that a public CEO's incentives should be aligned with their shareholders?

That's the only way you can have real change, instead of the moral hazard situation we have now.

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Or it was too much inertia to overcome, which is probably a huge factor.

It was both and more. I started there back when Bartz was CEO. Bartz continued down the media company path that was already established. Thompson doubled down and cut huge amount of tech talent to focus on media. Like he literally almost completely killed labs the PhD wing that did research. There are other things that elaborate on that really hurt and created the outcome we see today. When MM started she had no idea…

^ this is the real story here.

The alibaba investment was probably Jerry Yang's best ROI decision aside from being a part of starting the company in the first place...

Unfortunately for Yahoo itself that decision was SOOO good that it would eventually consume the company.

Because there was basically no way for the company to overcome how valuable it was as an Alibaba proxy and wall street started to look at all of its other endeavors as just high risk low chance of return gambling with the Alibaba money.

Re: Yahoo SEC Filing: Name change to Altaba Inc and director resignations

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For those confused, this filing is reporting a name change because the operating business (including its brand, domain name, etc.) is being acquired by Verizon out of what is now Yahoo! Inc. So the Yahoo business, its name, domains, and so on are not going anywhere as a result of this announcement. Altaba is just the name of of the company that will hold the investments that Verizon didn't acquire, including Alibaba…

Haha, Verizon owns America Online as well. Perhaps they're going to collect all relics of the 90's internet into some kind of Voltron monster.

Re: Yahoo SEC Filing: Name change to Altaba Inc and director resignations

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Would you have refused such pay if you were in her position?

The point is that where there is a great paycheck there is great responsibility, to paraphrase Churchill.

Only if there's a performance clause in the contract.

Re: Yahoo SEC Filing: Name change to Altaba Inc and director resignations

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She was very well compensated for her time sinking Yahoo. I think this kind of tone policing is unhealthy.

(reasonable) tone policing helps prevent a bunch of armchair quarterbacks with modestly successful programming backgrounds from assuming they have any idea what happens at the executive level of a company like Yahoo.

Armchair quarterbacking on every topic is the bread and butter of this site. Why should Yahoo be exempt?

Re: Yahoo SEC Filing: Name change to Altaba Inc and director resignations

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Not sure why a "good faith effort" requires taking such a crazy amount of personal risk. Yahoo was willing to pay millions to the exec they thought had the best chance to turn the company around. She should have declined that and and unnecessarily played on Extra Hard mode instead?

You don't think that a public CEO's incentives should be aligned with their shareholders? That's the only way you can have real change, instead of the moral hazard situation we have now.

Sure, in the form of stock, incentive bonuses, etc. Not the entire salary
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