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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using Microsoft Teams?

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Post by gumby »

mdekkers wrote: post #50
rarrrrrr wrote: post #7

Microsoft is smart to build their own Outlook killer, and they certainly succeeded in freaking Slack out[1]. We (SpiderOak) evaluated teams as competitive research when building Semaphor [2] (our own end-to-end encrypted alternative to Slack/HipChat.) I found Teams to be a credible offering. It's shortcomings are mostly about being very new (e.g. no linux client yet, some unpolished UI associated with window resizing…

Wow, what a negative, condescending article.

I first thought this was a flip comment and then read the article so I could laugh at mdekkers. I was the dumb one: spideroak's article actually is amazingly condescending.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using Microsoft Teams?

#52

Post by leksak »

rarrrrrr wrote: post #7

Microsoft is smart to build their own Outlook killer, and they certainly succeeded in freaking Slack out[1]. We (SpiderOak) evaluated teams as competitive research when building Semaphor [2] (our own end-to-end encrypted alternative to Slack/HipChat.) I found Teams to be a credible offering. It's shortcomings are mostly about being very new (e.g. no linux client yet, some unpolished UI associated with window resizing…

Did you look at Mattermost?

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using Microsoft Teams?

#53

Post by pvdebbe »

basch wrote: post #45
pvdebbe wrote: post #22

Our company bought into Office 365 ecosystem and Teams was a natural choice to try. We haven't used Slack or similar tool before. Well, Teams allows discussions, but at least in November its built-in Skype for Business (SfB) client worked exactly like the other SfB clients work: not at all well with others. (Serious issues with race conditions on how the server sends the messages to what client, with several listenin…

>(Serious issues with race conditions on how the server sends the messages to what client, with several listening clients everything turns into a mess!) This makes the mobile client nearly unusable in its current incarnation. I can be sitting on Facebook on my desktop and Messenger on my phone and alternate each sentence between each device. I cannot pick up my phone and continue a Skype for Business conversation I w…

SfB (Lync) is terribly done in terms of the client-server architecture. Messages don't get consistently saved for offline recipients, the issues with several listening clients. For a business communications application, it sure seems a lot less suitable for business/corporate use than Skype Personal.

Yammer's another fiasco. Teams, on the other hand, might turn out to be very decent but the SfB integration brings it down.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using Microsoft Teams?

#54

Post by donmatito »

r00fus wrote: post #46
basch wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the Office 365 world Groups are everything. Groups are a shared mailbox and a sharepoint site w/ document library. All permissions are determined by permission to the mailbox. "Integration with Office" means integration with Exchange, Sharepoint, Lync more than it means integration with Excel, Word etc. A team exists inside a group. When a file is uploaded, it really uploads to sharepoint/onedrive. Each Channel cr…

Interesting - so Slack offers external access (single channel guest) - is there any similar functionality? Given Teams is tied to Exchange groups, would it be expensive to add an external user? We deal with external companies a lot where I work and having that feature is pretty useful.

That's why I'm developing Team-to-team and Team-to-Slack chat :-)

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using Microsoft Teams?

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Post by basch »

r00fus wrote: post #46
basch wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the Office 365 world Groups are everything. Groups are a shared mailbox and a sharepoint site w/ document library. All permissions are determined by permission to the mailbox. "Integration with Office" means integration with Exchange, Sharepoint, Lync more than it means integration with Excel, Word etc. A team exists inside a group. When a file is uploaded, it really uploads to sharepoint/onedrive. Each Channel cr…

Interesting - so Slack offers external access (single channel guest) - is there any similar functionality? Given Teams is tied to Exchange groups, would it be expensive to add an external user? We deal with external companies a lot where I work and having that feature is pretty useful.

there is a way to add external collaborators to groups in some fashion. I dont know how that translates to teams.

http://fasttrack.microsoft.com/roadmap?filters=

type EXTERNAL into the search bar of the link above to see the features they have been working on.

Guest group access has LAUNCHED, and there are 11 other features down in the previously launched section.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using Microsoft Teams?

#56

Post by px1999 »

donmatito wrote: post #34
px1999 wrote: post #30

We're slowly rolling it out to individual product teams in our small (~50 people) ms-based dev organisation. Things are going reasonably well. We'd have picked slack over teams in a minute, though it has compliance issues making it unusable for us - slack is just more polished and has a lot more that you can get out of the box / with plugins. That said, teams still has some great features for us, so we'll stick with…

Good enough product vs crappy status quo + massive Office userbase = will probably end well for them :-)

That's pretty likely. If people don't know how to use collaborative tools, they get frustrated and give up, so a successful product can't alienate its userbase. Skype teams is familiar enough for the email generation to use, but still improves slightly on communication.

There's a huge market out there that's scared of Slack etc, but will love Skype Teams.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using Microsoft Teams?

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Post by rarrrrrr »

gumby wrote: post #51
mdekkers wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow, what a negative, condescending article.

I first thought this was a flip comment and then read the article so I could laugh at mdekkers. I was the dumb one: spideroak's article actually is amazingly condescending.

For context: it's in response to Slack putting a very condescending 1 page ad in the NYT addressed to Microsoft.

http://www.inc.com/justin-bariso/theres-a-major-problem-with...

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