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Re: “Reclaim Windows 10” Powershell Script

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Post by KirinDave »

corndoge wrote: post #259
KirinDave wrote: post #250

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> It's not primitive in terms of UX. You just need to spend more time configuring it. Some will argue that that means it's primitive, but I don't think so. Okay, so... let's just think about what you said for a second. Windows 10 and Mac OS X deliver extremely high end configuration with a lot of extensibility in their Window managers via first and third parties without extensive modifications . I have some unique XM…

at least I don't have to run 300 lines of powershell to remove telemetry and candy crush soda saga from my brand new computer checkmate

I don't either, and I never did. My brand new computer shipped without spamware, because I chose a reputable vendor like Microsoft and not famously abusive vendors like, say, Lenovo.

I'm not terribly concerned about app or browser telemetry. If you're using Chrome, you're spitting back a ton. Firefox? Still sending some! Your mobile device? Spitting back a ton. Everyone other machine? Also doing so. Canonical? Also doing some, although to their credit it's less.

You have basically equated all telemetry with intrusive spyware, when in fact it's usually banal data designed to make it easy to identify problems after a bad software push. While maybe we could have a discusion about where to draw the line of "too much" for Windows 10, you've set such a profound double standard you won't even allow a dialogue about it.

Re: “Reclaim Windows 10” Powershell Script

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Post by KirinDave »

darklajid wrote: post #223
KirinDave wrote: post #27

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"Everything just works" so long as your expectations around "everything" are essentially set by a desktop computer experience designed in 2005. Linux on desktops is fine (except from a physical security standpoint), but primitive in terms of UX. And it's still dependent on Mozilla or Google for its browsing experience. And if you want a portable computer (which by the way are demonstrably more secure in the face of p…

"And it's still dependent on Mozilla or Google for its browsing experience." Is that your way of saying that you cannot run proprietary stuff like IE or Safari and that .. is a bad thing? I don't know a single person using Edge/IE anywhere around me, so I have trouble parsing and understanding this statement.

Even compiling a chromium shell includes some telemetry! Every browser collects some telemetry and websites do more.

There is no networked computing experience that does not allow vendors to extract metadata.

Re: “Reclaim Windows 10” Powershell Script

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Post by flukus »

rjbwork wrote: post #260
corndoge wrote: post #169

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It's not primitive in terms of UX. You just need to spend more time configuring it. Some will argue that that means it's primitive, but I don't think so. The point about portable computers is also false. You just need to pick a machine with hardware manufactured by friendly vendors who help write drivers. Why would you want to support anyone else? Battery life? My x230 with tpm installed gets 6 hours of battery life…

>It's not primitive in terms of UX. You just need to spend more time configuring it. Aaaaand this is why I opted away from Linux and back into the Windows world after university. I'm trying to get shit done, I want to install and go and almost never have to touch anything but my code and solving my problems - NOT solving the problems with the tools that I'm ostensibly supposed to be using to solve my problems. For al…

I just had to change the same setting on windows, changing a line in a text file is much simpler than the maze of configuration dialogs I had to go through on windows. The linux way is easier, but the windows one is more discoverable, it would be nice to have an inbetween.

Re: “Reclaim Windows 10” Powershell Script

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Post by jodrellblank »

jordic wrote: post #46
maxt wrote: post #15

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No that's the only caveat. I much prefer to use scripts, as these programs are a bit of a black box. But at least they're digitally signed and recommended by the wider Windows 'powertoy' community so you're allowed to trust them.

If isn't opensource You can't trust it.

Nonsense.

If it is open source, that doesn't make it automatically trustworthy. If it isn't open source, you can trust it as much as you trust the author(s). Open source and trust are separate things.

Re: “Reclaim Windows 10” Powershell Script

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Post by eumoria »

ComputerGuru wrote: post #83
eumoria wrote: post #64

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A good general one to rip out the bloatware is: Get-AppxPackage ** | Remove-AppxPackage Safe but sometimes you have to execute it restart and execute it again for seemingly no reason but it works and won't damage anything. Run powershell as admin. EDIT: A cursory glance of the script doesn't show anything dangerous. It may do thinks you don't want though but PowerShell's pretty decent to understand what's going on ev…

Be careful, this breaks things. I ran this when I first switched to Windows 10, and I found that it killed search in the start menu, certain control panel applets that relied on the metro framework, and somehow, VSS.

It rips out all the metro apps. It does nothing to cortana so that's confusing. VSS?

Re: “Reclaim Windows 10” Powershell Script

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ComputerGuru wrote: post #83
eumoria wrote: post #64

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A good general one to rip out the bloatware is: Get-AppxPackage ** | Remove-AppxPackage Safe but sometimes you have to execute it restart and execute it again for seemingly no reason but it works and won't damage anything. Run powershell as admin. EDIT: A cursory glance of the script doesn't show anything dangerous. It may do thinks you don't want though but PowerShell's pretty decent to understand what's going on ev…

Be careful, this breaks things. I ran this when I first switched to Windows 10, and I found that it killed search in the start menu, certain control panel applets that relied on the metro framework, and somehow, VSS.

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Re: “Reclaim Windows 10” Powershell Script

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Post by KirinDave »

lorenzhs wrote: post #254
tracker1 wrote: post #244

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With OSX/Windows, it tends to mirror by default and/or present a window asking you what you want to do. Requiring a CLI to connect a monitor/projector is a UX fail.

There are plenty of tools to automate that. arandr is a very simple and powerful tool to arrange monitors with a GUI. Gnome has its own, much simpler, monitor configuration dialog. My system defaults to extending to the right, by the way, because that's generally what I want when connecting a projector. None of this is new, and the whole point of this discussion is that Linux desktops are much better than they were t…

And the thing I think you're hearing is that "progress" should not equate to "good enough." Doing a sensible and even helpful thing by default is part of user friendliness.

Re: “Reclaim Windows 10” Powershell Script

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Post by Veratyr »

btschaegg wrote: post #238
Veratyr wrote: post #173

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> and there are multiple, competing (and very competent) Lightroom replacements for digital darkroom work The problem I have with most of the replacements is that none of them seem to put much/any effort into cataloguing and taxonomy. There's plenty of open source alternatives for the RAW exposure component of Lightroom but I don't think that's the reason people stick with it. Organising photos is hard and Lightroom…

Interesting. To me, those features are the ones I struggle most with in Lightroom. The workflow per se works great, but that a tool would dictate to me how I organize my pictures (as in: on the file system) is a big nogo. I use LR in a VM (since it doesn't run on Linux) and in such an environment, there's always a shortage of disk space. LR gives me exactly 0 possibilities to work around that - the only option is to…

> The workflow per se works great, but that a tool would dictate to me how I organize my pictures (as in: on the file system) is a big nogo.

You mean in a file system at all or you mean that it wants things stored in a particular folder structure? If the latter, Lightroom doesn't enforce any particular structure. If the former, I'm not aware of another solution that works with images that aren't on disk. Darktable, RawTherapee, Capture One Pro etc. all work with stuff on a filesystem.

Re: “Reclaim Windows 10” Powershell Script

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Post by btschaegg »

Veratyr wrote: post #268
btschaegg wrote: post #238

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Interesting. To me, those features are the ones I struggle most with in Lightroom. The workflow per se works great, but that a tool would dictate to me how I organize my pictures (as in: on the file system) is a big nogo. I use LR in a VM (since it doesn't run on Linux) and in such an environment, there's always a shortage of disk space. LR gives me exactly 0 possibilities to work around that - the only option is to…

> The workflow per se works great, but that a tool would dictate to me how I organize my pictures (as in: on the file system) is a big nogo. You mean in a file system at all or you mean that it wants things stored in a particular folder structure? If the latter, Lightroom doesn't enforce any particular structure. If the former, I'm not aware of another solution that works with images that aren't on disk. Darktable, R…

I don't really care about the folder structure, I'd just like to be able to move parts of my library around without losing all the work I've done.

Darktable for example saves its settings in a file alongside the RAW image. Done. I can move those around without being afraid of anything. LR however enforces Adobe's own, opaque solution that I'm not aware of any possibilities to efficiently manage without going through LR itself.

Don't get me wrong, tagging etc. is nice. I'd just rather do it on my own in a system that I can manage myself (e.g. BeFS if need be).

Re: “Reclaim Windows 10” Powershell Script

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Post by lorenzhs »

KirinDave wrote: post #250
corndoge wrote: post #169

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It's not primitive in terms of UX. You just need to spend more time configuring it. Some will argue that that means it's primitive, but I don't think so. The point about portable computers is also false. You just need to pick a machine with hardware manufactured by friendly vendors who help write drivers. Why would you want to support anyone else? Battery life? My x230 with tpm installed gets 6 hours of battery life…

> It's not primitive in terms of UX. You just need to spend more time configuring it. Some will argue that that means it's primitive, but I don't think so. Okay, so... let's just think about what you said for a second. Windows 10 and Mac OS X deliver extremely high end configuration with a lot of extensibility in their Window managers via first and third parties without extensive modifications . I have some unique XM…

A Linux system with Gnome comes with good defaults, too. The difference is that with Linux you can use XMonad if you so wish, but don't pretend that that is what a new user faces.

> Yeah. "Lenovo is friendly" is not a very compelling argument. Their support and sales are miserable. Their machines are unimpressive. Their supported versions of Linux are years out of date.

I don't care about sales, and they publish excellent hardware maintenance manuals which means that I don't need to rely on their support. You say that their machines are unimpressive, but I don't share that sentiment. They're not flashy, sure. But they're rock-solid and take a lot of abuse. You can drop them or spill liquids on the keyboard, and your system will be fine. Just wait a minute for your drink to come back out at the bottom. And despite that, they're still pretty light. I think they're quite impressive.

>> Battery life? My x230 with tpm installed gets 6 hours of battery life on the stock battery.

> My surface book gets 6 hours of battery life even if I'm compiling android binaries regularly. Without changing anything.

You're comparing a 5-year old computer to a brand new one. Apples and oranges.

> > HandleLidSwitch=suspend

> Are you actually going to pretend that sleep support isn't a major issue for many portable hardware setups? Or is this restricted to "only specific token gesture devices from specific vendors?"

Never had a sleep issue with my ThinkPad, ever. There is no vendor support for Linux.

> So.. tell me... does Canonical's kernel update purge old kernel images yet, or are regular users still SOL after about 8 months of use unless they invoke a shell script they barely understand provided by stack overflow? Asking for a friend who I had to do this form.

That's a Ubuntu issue, not a general one, and they should really offer an option to do this automatically. There's no excuse not to. But that's hardly a big issue, is it?

But tell me, does Windows auto-remove the remains of failed updates automatically now? Because during the Christmas holidays, I used the disk cleanup tool to remove several Gigabytes of them from a family member's Windows 10 computer.

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