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F.B.I. Arrests Volkswagen Executive on Conspiracy Charges in Emissions Scandal

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Re: F.B.I. Arrests Volkswagen Executive on Conspiracy Charges in Emissions Scandal

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Post by sintaxi »

dovdovdov wrote: post #24
pvlima wrote: post #19

Most amazing is that in Europe VW does not have to pay anything. And car owners are forced to do a software update that reduces engine power and increases risk of malfunction. VW never again.

If this blows up it's over for most german car manufacturers. They sold a lot of diesel cars, and most of them probably have some hacks to meet Euro standards. They should be forced to fix all cars, reimburse buyers for any losses, and be forced(!) to go green asap (which probably means at least 10 years, so yeah there should be some force)!

I think it would be a reasonable to forbid VW from ever making a combustible engine ever again. Forcing them to go green or perish. It's some Lex Luther level shit they pulled.

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Post by troisx »

devoply wrote: post #3

Must not have invested money in lobbying DC. VW needs to spend a few million on lobbyists.

Exactly. Ships cause enormous amounts of pollution but are practically unregulated thanks to the lobbying influence of companies that import and export.

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Post by easytiger »

alexandercrohde wrote: post #2

Good. I'm tired of high-ranking high-status members of society dodging consequences of multimillion or billion dollar catastrophes while the lowest classes get life sentences for ruining a single life. I think the only way to stop the white-collar crime problem (which I think is a bigger problem than the physical crime problem) is by holding people accountable.

You fell for it.. this is US economic imperialism, and nothing to do about emissions.

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Post by alex_duf »

saiya-jin wrote: post #16
Pyxl101 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have not been closely following this scandal, so I was unaware that other car manufacturers have been indicted in emissions cheating. Could you share a source with more information about this?

I thought it's a common knowledge most/all are doing it in one way or the other. Same as professional athletes in many sports, ie cycling - you cannot be really successful without any hacks/borderline cheating, it's more a matter of being few steps ahead of doping tests and current rules, thriving in the gray area. I simply don't believe anymore there are any clean athletes in first 3 places in any sport where there…

That's an interesting parallel

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Post by _nedR »

dovdovdov wrote: post #24
pvlima wrote: post #19

Most amazing is that in Europe VW does not have to pay anything. And car owners are forced to do a software update that reduces engine power and increases risk of malfunction. VW never again.

If this blows up it's over for most german car manufacturers. They sold a lot of diesel cars, and most of them probably have some hacks to meet Euro standards. They should be forced to fix all cars, reimburse buyers for any losses, and be forced(!) to go green asap (which probably means at least 10 years, so yeah there should be some force)!

It seems to be game over for diesel cars in general, even if you ignore their eventual replacement with electric cars. They have been getting a lot of bad press lately. Their popularity was due to their higher fuel efficiency; But for diesels, it seems that there is trade-off between fuel efficiency and NOx emissions (http://www.livescience.com/52284-volkswagen-scandal-clean-di...). With many cities and countries trying to curb smog and air pollution, diesels are on the top of the hitlist.

edit: reworded, and changed link

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Post by fuck_google »

vostok wrote: post #27

As someone who works in finance, I'm shocked at the level of fraud and corruption that is tolerated in other industries. I'm glad to see that at least some action is being taken.

Perhaps the general lack of ethics and morality in society is the product of the culture of incompetence, corruption and greed that the finance sector seems to nourish.

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Post by MattBearman »

pvlima wrote: post #19

Most amazing is that in Europe VW does not have to pay anything. And car owners are forced to do a software update that reduces engine power and increases risk of malfunction. VW never again.

Legal proceedings have just begun in the UK [0], and according to the article VW have already had to pay out to owners in Spain.

0 - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38552828

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Post by bottled_poe »

justinjlynn wrote: post #14
tomp wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pollution is murder (statistically).

As is reproduction, in general. Of course, there's little point in pedantry.

7% of humans ever born are not dead. Pedantry is alive and well here.
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