Ask HN: Do you believe the Russia hacking story? • Hacker News Board

Re: Ask HN: Do you believe the Russia hacking story?

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Post by hourislate » Mon, Jan 09, 2017, 4:17 AM UTC

avenoir wrote: post #38

mcphage wrote: post #34

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What you're saying is, it looks like Russia, so it wasn't Russia. But if it didn't look like Russia, then maybe it would have been Russia.

Perhaps I shouldn't have made such a wild claim. I was just taken aback at the lack of competence due to lots of giveaways hidden in plain sight. Hard to believe that a state-sponsored cyber espionage actor doesn't realize that the first thing investigators would do is disassemble the executable once it's discovered. I guess everything's possible. @bjourne does make a good point in his reply.

Did you ever consider the Russians didn't care if they were caught or intentionally left clues to let the American Administration understand that they were responsible?

Re: Ask HN: Do you believe the Russia hacking story?

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Post by gvd » Mon, Jan 09, 2017, 6:16 AM UTC

alistproducer2 wrote: post #22

stinkytaco wrote: post #19

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I think you are creating a strawman. One does not have to approve of the CIA to think that they are correct. Indeed, if one believes the CIA and NSA are adept at collecting intelligence on the American people, it follows that they might also be good at collecting it on Russia. There does not have to be an "alliance" to agree on established facts. Indeed, I would argue that your point that if one disproves of CIA tact…

How much one decides to believe a particular statement from organizations that claim never to be able to provide proof is entirely dependent on one's need for that statement to be true. If that statement provides for the destruction of "the other side" people are much more likely to believe it. >everything the CIA says or asserts is now somehow in question The CIA is an agency where everyone is taught to lie. They of…

What is the motive for the CIA to lie?

Re: Ask HN: Do you believe the Russia hacking story?

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Post by 3131s » Mon, Jan 09, 2017, 11:03 AM UTC

I'm not inclined to trust the US government, but more importantly it seems like the focus on Russia is a distraction (whether or not Russia is responsible). What's important is the content of those emails.

Re: Ask HN: Do you believe the Russia hacking story?

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Post by alistproducer2 » Mon, Jan 09, 2017, 12:24 PM UTC

gvd wrote: post #42

alistproducer2 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much one decides to believe a particular statement from organizations that claim never to be able to provide proof is entirely dependent on one's need for that statement to be true. If that statement provides for the destruction of "the other side" people are much more likely to believe it. >everything the CIA says or asserts is now somehow in question The CIA is an agency where everyone is taught to lie. They of…

What is the motive for the CIA to lie?

Is this a serious question?