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Re: I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

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Post by jimnotgym »

edblarney wrote: post #108
patrickaljord wrote: post #3

The war on drugs is probably one of the biggest crime against humanity since WW2 with millions of deaths, millions in prisons, and trillions of dollars and human resources wasted, mostly affecting the poor and minorities everywhere. This needs to stop. Sadly, it looks like it will go on for a few more decades.

"The war on drugs is probably one of the biggest crime against humanity since WW2 " Spoken by someone who has never known an opioid or cocaine addict, and watched lives crumble, sometimes into death. Most drugs are quite dangerous and have seriously adverse affects upon populations at large. Cocaine, Meth, and Opioids create massive social health problems far beyond anything dope or alcohol ever could. I have no doub…

>A family member who is point-blank prescription opioid addict - and it's complicated because she gets debilitating migraines that few drugs can help her with, but the 'solution' is poison.

Paracetamol (is this tylenol in the US) is a pretty effective poison too. Many drugs are poisonous either in large doses or sustained use. It appears cannabis is not one of them btw. What is your solution?

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Post by phreack »

kahrkunne wrote: post #84

You know, I'm not at all opposed to weed (I smoke weed myself on occasion) but I don't think we should encourage experimenting with drugs on 9 year old kids by people who are not medical professionals...

Article says it was a last resort option suggested and approved by medical professionals.

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

daveguy wrote: post #144
JoeAltmaier wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All very easy to say, safely in your house away from your loved child in pain with 600+ violent outbursts a day. Every parent has only one subject; every child raising is a trial. You only have one chance and have to choose one approach. This drug is used worldwide by maybe a billion people. Scaremongering is unhelpful.

Cowboy drug trials on children are scary. No need for scaremongering. Aspirin is used by billions of people and it's dangerous to give to children. She obviously has no clue how to manage safe dosing for a trial and that is ignorant and dangerous. Just because it's natural and everyone's doing it doesn't mean it's safe: hemlock is natural, "everyone" used to smoke cigarettes.

How about the 7 years of benefit? How about a child with a chance to grow up, who didn't have one before?

This was a desperate act, by a desperate parent who had been abandoned by a medical industry that's happy to lose a generation of sick children because hey! process.

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Post by fourstar »

tptacek wrote: post #106
tunap wrote: post #24

I spent the majority of 2012 in hospitals with two family members fighting cancers. I had a lot of conversations with doctors/nurses and often enough MMJ was discussed. "Off the record", of course. The general consensus was CBDs have many apparent benefits, it was even posited they may inhibit malignant cell formations(further study required). The consensus also was that the THC race to get the most 'chronic' high fr…

On the other hand, the strain mentioned in this article is famously high in THC.

Here are some strains that are high in CBD:

https://leafist.com/news/2016/12/19/which-cannabis-strains-h...

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Post by sehr »

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #105
exwebtina wrote: post #85

I recall in 70s/80s Denmark and Netherlands made pot legal in parts of Amsterdam and Copenhagen. The areas quickly turned into dumps. I'm fine with Slab City but do we wan't this for all of US?

Amsterdam is very far from being a dump. Sure, the (very small) red light district might not be the kind of place you take your mother-in-law, but outside that it's a wonderful, picturesque, friendly, vibrant city.

Such a ridiculously gorgeous city. And besides, it's not even legal in Amsterdam anyways...

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

toyg wrote: post #137
JoeAltmaier wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok that accounts for maybe 150,000. Staggeringly high. But I still call Hyperbole on 'millions'

Then add people whose life was ruined by addiction, as producers refined their wares to maximize that side-effect, and by getting caught in the prison system - then died of the effects of poverty, homelessness and emargination that result from those conditions. It's hard to keep stats on that, but you'd easily run in the millions.

Are we still talking about drugs? Or obesity? Or internet addiction? We're talking billions by now. An no war was ever waged on those things.

The 'war on drugs' has not been shown responsible for addiction, addiction-related crime and related social ills.

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Post by ovibos »

edblarney wrote: post #108
patrickaljord wrote: post #3

The war on drugs is probably one of the biggest crime against humanity since WW2 with millions of deaths, millions in prisons, and trillions of dollars and human resources wasted, mostly affecting the poor and minorities everywhere. This needs to stop. Sadly, it looks like it will go on for a few more decades.

"The war on drugs is probably one of the biggest crime against humanity since WW2 " Spoken by someone who has never known an opioid or cocaine addict, and watched lives crumble, sometimes into death. Most drugs are quite dangerous and have seriously adverse affects upon populations at large. Cocaine, Meth, and Opioids create massive social health problems far beyond anything dope or alcohol ever could. I have no doub…

You're sort of attacking a straw man here - just because someone is against the war on drugs doesn't mean they are for indiscriminate legalization. The biggest criticisms of the war on drugs in this thread are that it A) attacks people who are no threat to anyone else or themselves (e.g., cannibas and psychedelic users, "responsible" users in general) because of public misconceptions of these drugs pushed by the powers that be, and that B) it attacks people who are very much in need of help, such as addicts of more dangerous/addictive drugs, by punishing them for what is effectively a disease.

Opinions of HN users may vary on how exactly to fix these problems, but I think it's safe to say that neither the system we have now (villainizing and condemning users) nor complete and total deregulation are solutions.

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Post by jimnotgym »

DanBC wrote: post #139
jimnotgym wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>against his knowledge He is a child, they are his parents. They have every right to choose his treatment >quackery If medical science had an alternative you may have a point. These parents ran out of options

No, parents don't have the right to do what they like to their children. > If medical science had an alternative you may have a point. These parents ran out of options Exactly the point I made above. Lack of options does not mean parents can just try anything else. Some parents with no options chose bleach to treat autism. http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/... This mother has no idea what ha…

That is not what I said, I said choose treatment not experiment. The mother states that she consulted with various medical professionals in the article. Once you have consulted you have the right to choose treatment.

The article says She consulted with people specifically about the risks involved and was advised they were extremely low. How is that equivalent in any way to experimenting on children????

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Post by shkkmo »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #113
djmobley wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Presumably OP means deaths linked to the production, distribution, and sale of illegal drugs. Think Mexican drug cartels, gang wars over drug selling operations, etc.

Ok that accounts for maybe 150,000. Staggeringly high. But I still call Hyperbole on 'millions'

Your are dramatically underestimating the number of deaths due to drug violence. Mexico alone accounted for over 100k as of several years ago. I suspect millions could be a bit of a reach, but it's probably within the range of reasonable estimates. I can't seem to find any good estimates.

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Post by MarkHub »

patrickaljord wrote: post #3

The war on drugs is probably one of the biggest crime against humanity since WW2 with millions of deaths, millions in prisons, and trillions of dollars and human resources wasted, mostly affecting the poor and minorities everywhere. This needs to stop. Sadly, it looks like it will go on for a few more decades.

There are many other things which are also biggest crime against humanity like human trafficking, terrorism and racism.
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