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I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

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Re: I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

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Post by tankenmate »

mazlix wrote: post #28

I'd advice caution on giving any developing brain cannabis. Although it seems cannabis is fairly harmless in developed brains– there's some evidence it can interfere with development.

Constantly banging your head off an iron bath also interferes with brain development; this is a clear case of trade offs, not only medical but also legal and social. I don't think any reasonable mother, probably including this one, would suggest giving cannabis to an "average" child; but this is far from an average situation and so in all likely hood will require a non average treatment.

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Post by jimnotgym »

thesmallestcat wrote: post #29
dahart wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"seven years later, it’s still working." Seems like tolerance isn't really an actual problem here. Are you suggesting these parents have some course of action to cure their child's problems? The child could relapse, but I don't understand what point you're trying to make.

That's fair. While it's possible that changes as the child becomes a man will nullify the medicine, maybe this is a permanent fix. But it's clear that the parents are forced to overmedicate for fear that the child will act out when "coming down." What rubs me the wrong way about this article is that it's written in such a way that any parent whose kid has a problem with tantrums might think, "hm, what if I just drugg…

>But it's clear that the parents are forced to overmedicate for fear that the child will act out when "coming down."

That is not at all clear from the article. There is no talk of withdrawal. If you take away pain meds and the pain comes back, that is not withdrawal!

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Post by [deleted] »

hasenj wrote: post #38
patrickaljord wrote: post #3

The war on drugs is probably one of the biggest crime against humanity since WW2 with millions of deaths, millions in prisons, and trillions of dollars and human resources wasted, mostly affecting the poor and minorities everywhere. This needs to stop. Sadly, it looks like it will go on for a few more decades.

Really? I have a very deep suspicion that drugs destroy society by making a majority of people lethargic and unmotivated to do anything in real life. A case could be made for exceptions here and there (like the child in this article) but I don't think it works so well in society.

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Re: I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

patrickaljord wrote: post #3

The war on drugs is probably one of the biggest crime against humanity since WW2 with millions of deaths, millions in prisons, and trillions of dollars and human resources wasted, mostly affecting the poor and minorities everywhere. This needs to stop. Sadly, it looks like it will go on for a few more decades.

I call hyperbole. Millions of deaths? Do you mean by overdose? Are those the fault of resisting the spread of drugs?

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Post by mistermann »

mazlix wrote: post #28

I'd advice caution on giving any developing brain cannabis. Although it seems cannabis is fairly harmless in developed brains– there's some evidence it can interfere with development.

In this case it seems more prudent to worry about whether this kid is going to cut his jugular when putting his head through a window.

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Post by mistermann »

thesmallestcat wrote: post #20
unethical_ban wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Different medicine with completely different bodily interactions. Different age of the child. Any reason to believe it will, other than it being a cliche?

I used medical marijuana heavily for many, many years. Tolerance builds and it ain't the same, trust me. There, now we have an anecdote against the one in the story. See where this sort of journalism gets us? At some point there are demons you have to tackle head-on, or cope with otherwise. Anecdotally, for me, cannabis was a quick fix and a mistake.

How much research have you done into the science involved here, do you have a strong understanding of the fundamentals?

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Post by RhodesianHunter »

hasenj wrote: post #38
patrickaljord wrote: post #3

The war on drugs is probably one of the biggest crime against humanity since WW2 with millions of deaths, millions in prisons, and trillions of dollars and human resources wasted, mostly affecting the poor and minorities everywhere. This needs to stop. Sadly, it looks like it will go on for a few more decades.

Really? I have a very deep suspicion that drugs destroy society by making a majority of people lethargic and unmotivated to do anything in real life. A case could be made for exceptions here and there (like the child in this article) but I don't think it works so well in society.

What's your deep suspicion based on? Certainly not medical research.

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Post by xj9 »

hasenj wrote: post #38
patrickaljord wrote: post #3

The war on drugs is probably one of the biggest crime against humanity since WW2 with millions of deaths, millions in prisons, and trillions of dollars and human resources wasted, mostly affecting the poor and minorities everywhere. This needs to stop. Sadly, it looks like it will go on for a few more decades.

Really? I have a very deep suspicion that drugs destroy society by making a majority of people lethargic and unmotivated to do anything in real life. A case could be made for exceptions here and there (like the child in this article) but I don't think it works so well in society.

so, based on your suspicion you get to decide what substances I may ingest during my personal time? addiction can ruin lives, but the war on drugs only makes it worse for drug users. addicts need help, not punishment. you may or may not agree with drug use, but it is evident that what we are doing right now is not working.

Re: I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

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Post by jimnotgym »

How can a society that allows drinking alcohol and caffeine ban a plant you can grow on your window cill?

How can a society that will give Ritalin to a child, dogmatically refuse to give a child cannabis based therapy?

Why is the state so keen to control cannabis? Is it simply that the state associates it with hippies? Still? In 2017?

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