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Re: China Bans K-pop Music

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Post by sytelus »

jcoffland wrote: post #7
otoburb wrote: post #6

Curious how China's escalating displeasure with the THAAD system will affect the 2M Korean-speaking Chinese known as Joseonok[1]. One would have hoped their fortunes were on the rise, even if only slowly, but national attention on "Koreans" in general might be misconstrued against them. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koreans_in_China

For those, like me, who were not in the know regarding THAAD, it stands for Terminal High Altitude Area Defense and is a US made antimissile defense system. The US is working with South Korea to install THAAD systems there. China is not happy about this.

It seems like pure defense system. Why should anyone object to it?

Re: China Bans K-pop Music

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Post by dunkelheit »

sytelus wrote: post #11
jcoffland wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For those, like me, who were not in the know regarding THAAD, it stands for Terminal High Altitude Area Defense and is a US made antimissile defense system. The US is working with South Korea to install THAAD systems there. China is not happy about this.

It seems like pure defense system. Why should anyone object to it?

Because it breaks the doctrine of mutually assured destruction. If China loses the ability to effectively retaliate against a hypothetical US nuclear strike, it loses its superpower status.

Re: China Bans K-pop Music

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Post by digi_owl »

sytelus wrote: post #11
jcoffland wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For those, like me, who were not in the know regarding THAAD, it stands for Terminal High Altitude Area Defense and is a US made antimissile defense system. The US is working with South Korea to install THAAD systems there. China is not happy about this.

It seems like pure defense system. Why should anyone object to it?

If one party in a standoff think they have a chance to survive/win they may turn aggressive.

Re: China Bans K-pop Music

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Post by XorNot »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #8
caryhartline wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, it said so in the article. But it's also possibly going to have the effect of protecting the local industry.

It is always hard to tell why they do things. The pretext is...retaliation, but they look at all the other wins, and protectionism has a lot to do with it. Heck, Korean dramas were getting way too popular for local media comfort before the THAAD cut backs.

S. Korea is also a democracy. The regime is highly suspicious of any foreign culture which might make people more interested in control of their own government.

Re: China Bans K-pop Music

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Post by nl »

sytelus wrote: post #11
jcoffland wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For those, like me, who were not in the know regarding THAAD, it stands for Terminal High Altitude Area Defense and is a US made antimissile defense system. The US is working with South Korea to install THAAD systems there. China is not happy about this.

It seems like pure defense system. Why should anyone object to it?

Currently China's nuclear strike doctrine is "no first strike". To be clear, this means that China won't launch first, even in the case of a warning of a nuclear strike[1].

This isn't the same as the US or Russian policy (since 1993), which both retain the policy option of preemtive strikes.

Tools like THAAD reduce China's ability to present a credible second-strike, which has led them to object extremely strenuously to it.

Partially because of THAAD it seems that China is considering changing their doctrine[2]. This would be unfortunate, and it seems likely that there are many in the Chinese government who would prefer not to have to do that. If they could get THAAD deployment in Korea cancelled it would be likely to strengthen their hand.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_first_use

[2] http://thediplomat.com/2016/02/is-china-considering-a-high-r...

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Post by robert_foss »

So it's a response to American imperial ambitions?

Note how missile defence in the nuclear arena can't be interpreted as purely defensive as it increases the viability of a first strike.

America also has retained the right to the "first strike" option unlikely China which has declined such an option.

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Post by LunaSea »

sytelus wrote: post #11
jcoffland wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For those, like me, who were not in the know regarding THAAD, it stands for Terminal High Altitude Area Defense and is a US made antimissile defense system. The US is working with South Korea to install THAAD systems there. China is not happy about this.

It seems like pure defense system. Why should anyone object to it?

Because the difference between a defensive system and and offensive system is only a few small modifications.

Re: China Bans K-pop Music

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Post by avar »

There's something truly childish about Chinese diplomacy. They regularly release statements to the effect that the Chinese people have been insulted by some obscure diplomatic statement, and now they're implementing sanctions in the form of banning pop music of all things.

Anyone have any recommendations for books or articles that shed some light on this seemingly bizarre behavior?

Re: China Bans K-pop Music

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Post by [deleted] »

jcoffland wrote: post #7
otoburb wrote: post #6

Curious how China's escalating displeasure with the THAAD system will affect the 2M Korean-speaking Chinese known as Joseonok[1]. One would have hoped their fortunes were on the rise, even if only slowly, but national attention on "Koreans" in general might be misconstrued against them. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koreans_in_China

For those, like me, who were not in the know regarding THAAD, it stands for Terminal High Altitude Area Defense and is a US made antimissile defense system. The US is working with South Korea to install THAAD systems there. China is not happy about this.

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