Ask HN: Is anyone using Microsoft Teams? • Hacker News Board

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using Microsoft Teams?

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Post by donmatito » Sat, Jan 07, 2017, 9:34 PM UTC

pducks32 wrote: post #9

donmatito wrote: post #4

My opinion(1), after playing a while with MS Teams: The pros : the product is quite good, let say it is good enough and much better than the status quo of relying on emails or Whatsapp. It is integrated with the Office suite, and if I understand correctly, will be free for pro Office users. It has a handful of very interesting product decisions, like threaded replies and iframe apps. The cons : MS Teams is not as pol…

Yea I think you describe it well there as "heavy" it doesn't feel agile. The whole concept that a single login is more fluid only has a little validity because when you login to a suite of apps you feel so overwhelmed. Logging into slack means you're logged into slack. Pretty simply and light.

Yes. I wouldn't know where to start, if I wanted to open a Team with some friends. But in organizations where they already have an Office subscription, and an IT dept to manage the tenants and accounts ? People will love it :-)

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using Microsoft Teams?

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Post by kminehart » Sat, Jan 07, 2017, 9:41 PM UTC

donmatito wrote: post #4

My opinion(1), after playing a while with MS Teams: The pros : the product is quite good, let say it is good enough and much better than the status quo of relying on emails or Whatsapp. It is integrated with the Office suite, and if I understand correctly, will be free for pro Office users. It has a handful of very interesting product decisions, like threaded replies and iframe apps. The cons : MS Teams is not as pol…

I'm not sure that they're actually trying to go for Slacks user base, I think they're targeting the same people they targeted for Lync and Skype for Business.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using Microsoft Teams?

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Post by gkoberger » Sat, Jan 07, 2017, 9:42 PM UTC

hiby007 wrote: post #10

I think slack should charge on per user basis for any number or team, instead of having to pay for the same user in two different teams. I also think there should be cheaper/better competitor for slack in the market.

You won't get cheaper AND better. There's already a ton of competition.

Cheaper exists (everything from IRC to HipChat to Mattermost to dozens of Slack clones[1]); you're more than welcome to use any of those. The reason people don't is because Slack is the best (great UI, works well, lots of integrations, network effect, etc).

[1] http://blog.capterra.com/the-top-13-slack-alternatives/

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using Microsoft Teams?

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Post by darklajid » Sat, Jan 07, 2017, 9:46 PM UTC

We're using it. It is bad. Company just started to introduce Salck, MS announced this thing and we had to jump ship because everything they deliver is considered flawless in certain circles.

The mobile app is crap. There's no Linux client. No 3rd party integration that I've seen so far. Lots of bugs and I highly doubt that this project will move/improve at a VS Code level. A beta for your corporate communication needs.

The only upside? It might replace "Skype for Business" which is worse than almost anything else.

Sorry for the rant, but this is a very active issue in my day to day business right now. If I could, I'd stay the hell away from Teams.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using Microsoft Teams?

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Post by apapli » Sat, Jan 07, 2017, 9:50 PM UTC

Yes, adoption is still an issue for us as it is in a pre-release phase and we have too many options (yammer, email, outlook groups, slack etc) but it's very promising. Once they officially launch it that will help (hopefully) provide a clearer product direction.

It's pretty feature rich for an app in "preview".

It's also free, and I like the tabbed experience. Bringing in Microsoft Planner, some document libraries and PowerBI makes for a pretty compelling story.

Microsoft haters will never use it, but plenty of digital teams may get forced to use it if their IT team have already purchased Office365. And it's not that bad once you forget it was made by Microsoft.

Slack ought to be worried.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using Microsoft Teams?

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Post by hiby007 » Sat, Jan 07, 2017, 9:52 PM UTC

gkoberger wrote: post #13

hiby007 wrote: post #10

I think slack should charge on per user basis for any number or team, instead of having to pay for the same user in two different teams. I also think there should be cheaper/better competitor for slack in the market.

You won't get cheaper AND better. There's already a ton of competition. Cheaper exists (everything from IRC to HipChat to Mattermost to dozens of Slack clones[1]); you're more than welcome to use any of those. The reason people don't is because Slack is the best (great UI, works well, lots of integrations, network effect, etc). [1] http://blog.capterra.com/the-top-13-slack-alternatives/

I agree, Slack is the best out there, I as a customer would always like competition than monopoly.

Good Competiton always benefits customers.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using Microsoft Teams?

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Post by apapli » Sat, Jan 07, 2017, 10:03 PM UTC

darklajid wrote: post #14

We're using it. It is bad. Company just started to introduce Salck, MS announced this thing and we had to jump ship because everything they deliver is considered flawless in certain circles. The mobile app is crap. There's no Linux client. No 3rd party integration that I've seen so far. Lots of bugs and I highly doubt that this project will move/improve at a VS Code level. A beta for your corporate communication need…

You do know it is still in preview right?

Also I use the web client and it works for me, although have to agree it would be nice if the mobile app had access to some of the tabbed content. What else is wrong with the mobile app from your perspective?

Finally, here is the API reference if you want to look at it: https://dev.office.com/microsoft-teams

I am looking forward to when they integrate Flow with Teams. That could make things interesting, given all the 3rd party apps that Flow supports now.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using Microsoft Teams?

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Post by jacques_chester » Sat, Jan 07, 2017, 10:03 PM UTC

kminehart wrote: post #12

donmatito wrote: post #4

My opinion(1), after playing a while with MS Teams: The pros : the product is quite good, let say it is good enough and much better than the status quo of relying on emails or Whatsapp. It is integrated with the Office suite, and if I understand correctly, will be free for pro Office users. It has a handful of very interesting product decisions, like threaded replies and iframe apps. The cons : MS Teams is not as pol…

I'm not sure that they're actually trying to go for Slacks user base, I think they're targeting the same people they targeted for Lync and Skype for Business.

Or rather, they are preventing enterprise leakage to Slack, in anticipation that Slack will continue trying to expand into adjacent markets.

Mind you, the only reason anyone in bubbleville has heard of Teams is because Slack had that expensively cringetastic reaction.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using Microsoft Teams?

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Post by Spooky23 » Sat, Jan 07, 2017, 10:11 PM UTC

donmatito wrote: post #4

My opinion(1), after playing a while with MS Teams: The pros : the product is quite good, let say it is good enough and much better than the status quo of relying on emails or Whatsapp. It is integrated with the Office suite, and if I understand correctly, will be free for pro Office users. It has a handful of very interesting product decisions, like threaded replies and iframe apps. The cons : MS Teams is not as pol…

The problem with the product is that it really exists to keep big companies on the O365 E3+ plans.

Microsoft's big focus now is to retain subscription revenue. Skype and OneDrive are shit and MS is trying to bulk up the ecosystem around these products. If you work for a big company, you're not going to get approval to POC Slack, Dropbox, Webex, etc as long as you're stuck with the Microsoft all you can eat subscription.

Slack is a killer threat because it displaces email. Exchange has always been the glue that holds the biggest Microsoft cash cow together.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using Microsoft Teams?

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Post by donmatito » Sat, Jan 07, 2017, 10:11 PM UTC

kminehart wrote: post #12

donmatito wrote: post #4

My opinion(1), after playing a while with MS Teams: The pros : the product is quite good, let say it is good enough and much better than the status quo of relying on emails or Whatsapp. It is integrated with the Office suite, and if I understand correctly, will be free for pro Office users. It has a handful of very interesting product decisions, like threaded replies and iframe apps. The cons : MS Teams is not as pol…

I'm not sure that they're actually trying to go for Slacks user base, I think they're targeting the same people they targeted for Lync and Skype for Business.

I agree