Some years ago the first time I saw a pay toilet I thought the same way, but later on one day I was stomach sick, I appreciated so much that just paying 0.5€ it was ensuring me a perfectly clean and hygienical toilet to spend a sick moment of my life, I'm not against public toilets, I'm neither against pay ones.
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#32Some years ago the first time I saw a pay toilet I thought the same way, but later on one day I was stomach sick, I appreciated so much that just paying 0.5€ it was ensuring me a perfectly clean and hygienical toilet to spend a sick moment of my life, I'm not against public toilets, I'm neither against pay ones.
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#33I'm not sure if this was put here to ridicule Stallman or as a coda to his comments about Skype but this is a simple well-explained argument that I happen to agree with. If local government can't use local taxes to provide shared toilet facilities to stop us all having to defecate in the streets then what are they (and taxes) for? Community toilets (and streets clear of shit & piss) are, in my opinion, a fundamental…
> I'm not sure if this was put here to ridicule Stallman Almost certainly, it's a "joke". Flagged.
You might think it's funny, but plenty of us agree with his stance and I'm sure we could have a decent discussion about it. Whether or not the fact that it's stallman makes it suitable for HN is another matter.
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#35I understand why toilets aren't free. Free public toilets in urban areas are almost invariably dens of filth and crime. Unfortunately, pay toilets are invariably filthy themselves.
It boggles the mind that rich "western" countries aren't able to keep public infrastructre clean and free.
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#36Why would you go to a pay toilet when you can just grab a beer and use that place's toilet?
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#37I'm not sure if this was put here to ridicule Stallman or as a coda to his comments about Skype but this is a simple well-explained argument that I happen to agree with. If local government can't use local taxes to provide shared toilet facilities to stop us all having to defecate in the streets then what are they (and taxes) for? Community toilets (and streets clear of shit & piss) are, in my opinion, a fundamental…
I know at least in my city the removal of public bathrooms is due to homeless and drug problem. If you have 24 hour public toilets they just become homeless houses. It is frustrating though to be on the train through a less-than-great neighborhood and having to go to the bathroom... knowing that there are no available public ones and all of the commercial entities either try and refuse or force you to purchase something. Bit of a nightmare when you're in that I NEED TO GO NOW emergency mode.
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#38I'm not sure if this was put here to ridicule Stallman or as a coda to his comments about Skype but this is a simple well-explained argument that I happen to agree with. If local government can't use local taxes to provide shared toilet facilities to stop us all having to defecate in the streets then what are they (and taxes) for? Community toilets (and streets clear of shit & piss) are, in my opinion, a fundamental…
> If local government can't use local taxes to provide shared toilet facilities to stop us all having to defecate in the streets then what are they (and taxes) for?
If local government can't use local taxes to provide free food to everyone to stop us all having to starve in the streets then what are they (and taxes) for?
Is access to toilets a more fundamental human right than access to food?
Edit: Stallman explicitly demands that public toilets should be free to everyone, independent of their financial situation. Using his logic, we should boycot food until food is available to everyone free of charge. Of course I'm not arguing against feeding the needy, or against social nets in general.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I'm not sure if this was put here to ridicule Stallman Almost certainly, it's a "joke". Flagged.
You might think it's funny, but plenty of us agree with his stance and I'm sure we could have a decent discussion about it. Whether or not the fact that it's stallman makes it suitable for HN is another matter.
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#40Taking this view to its logical conclusion will be that all private businesses should be illegal. Such experiments were tried in large parts of the world in the 20th century. We all know how they turned out.