Please don’t pay to use a pay toilet

Where I live, we don't have pay toilets, but when I was on vacation last I thought they were great. I was happy to pay a little bit for a clean bathroom instead of having to go at a coffee shop or restaurant.

Stallman has a point, but it's easily addressable. The government could give the indigent vouchers to use the pay toilets. I'd even be happy to pay more to use the bathrooms to subsidize such a program.

Re: Please don’t pay to use a pay toilet

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Post by progval » Sat, Jan 07, 2017, 11:42 AM UTC

skbohra123 wrote: post #4

Mic92 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Germany

India too, at many places.

I sometimes see pay toilets in France too

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Post by _yosefk » Sat, Jan 07, 2017, 11:43 AM UTC

Is using the toilet a human right then, and if so, whose duty is it to volunteer to clean it up? Why are paid toilets nastier than paid food? Why not give poor people money instead of spending time (and in this case, a certain effort you can't even brag about in polite society) on yet another boycott? Is there any social institution that is not boycotted by Stallman?

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Post by sambeau » Sat, Jan 07, 2017, 11:43 AM UTC

I'm not sure if this was put here to ridicule Stallman or as a coda to his comments about Skype but this is a simple well-explained argument that I happen to agree with.

If local government can't use local taxes to provide shared toilet facilities to stop us all having to defecate in the streets then what are they (and taxes) for?

Community toilets (and streets clear of shit & piss) are, in my opinion, a fundamental and should be the basis of all civilised society. The fact that so many modern cities seem to have forgotten this is beyond me.

Re: Please don’t pay to use a pay toilet

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Post by hxsatvv » Sat, Jan 07, 2017, 11:44 AM UTC

hxsatvv: Reasons Not to Pay Attention to Anything Richard Stallman Says

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Post by ekns » Sat, Jan 07, 2017, 11:44 AM UTC

DiabloD3 wrote: post #2

Where in the fuck are there pay toilets? Is this a foreign thing?

Random examples from recent experience:

Some exist in Finland (at least in Helsinki).

Also saw one recently in a train station in Belgium, and IIRC a train station in the Netherlands.

Also in the North of Argentina near some bus station, where you would pay directly to someone apparently responsible for cleaning/maintaining them.