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Reasons not to use Skype (2012)

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Re: Reasons not to use Skype (2012)

#71
post #65

"Verbatim copying and redistribution of this entire page are permitted provided this notice is preserved." - Stallman's blog is not giving me the freedom to distribute the blog as please. It is infringing on my freedom. Anyone else find this ironic / hilarious?

Your freedom to do what exactly? Misrepresenting Stallman's views? Preventing your readers to copy and distribute the page you gave them?

Re: Reasons not to use Skype (2012)

#73
post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I don't disagree that he sounds, in general, like a bit of a douche, you can hardly say that this rider makes him an asshole. He lays out, reasonably, the conditions under which he will speak. He asks for tea, and Pepsi, not Coke. Seems utterly reasonable to me.

So if Coca Cola is the only thing available, he will just refuse. I personally prefer Coke, but I'm not going to walk off stage if I am offered Pepsi. A bit rock-starish if you ask me.

I think it's really too harsh to criticise him like that—He's obviously autistic, so people who deal with him should be more forgiving of this kind of behaviour.

Re: Reasons not to use Skype (2012)

#74
post #65

"Verbatim copying and redistribution of this entire page are permitted provided this notice is preserved." - Stallman's blog is not giving me the freedom to distribute the blog as please. It is infringing on my freedom. Anyone else find this ironic / hilarious?

Stallman is an advocate of copyleft, which that condition falls in line with. It's similar to the GPL license that has to be shipped verbatim with GPL code and places restrictions on how the project can be distributed (eg source must be available upon request).

What you're asking to do is akin to copyfree (eg BSD) which is a different type of "free".

Re: Reasons not to use Skype (2012)

#75
post #65

"Verbatim copying and redistribution of this entire page are permitted provided this notice is preserved." - Stallman's blog is not giving me the freedom to distribute the blog as please. It is infringing on my freedom. Anyone else find this ironic / hilarious?

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Re: Reasons not to use Skype (2012)

#76
post #4

Stallman claims Skype isn't encrypted end-to-end and then suggests using "free" alternatives that are not in the least bit security concious or end-to-end encrypted.

Also the "long distance phone card" suggestion ignores that every major telephone company in the US was caught providing information without any legal obligation to do so.

This articles seems to date back to 2012, most likely before the Snowden revelations. He probably have changed his mind since.

Re: Reasons not to use Skype (2012)

#77
post #65

"Verbatim copying and redistribution of this entire page are permitted provided this notice is preserved." - Stallman's blog is not giving me the freedom to distribute the blog as please. It is infringing on my freedom. Anyone else find this ironic / hilarious?

Your freedom to do what exactly? Misrepresenting Stallman's views? Preventing your readers to copy and distribute the page you gave them?

I can say the same argument about commercial software. They do not want you to modify their software for you to inject say malware in them. Just cos they don't want you to do that, it doesn't make their software not free.

Re: Reasons not to use Skype (2012)

#78
post #74
post #65

"Verbatim copying and redistribution of this entire page are permitted provided this notice is preserved." - Stallman's blog is not giving me the freedom to distribute the blog as please. It is infringing on my freedom. Anyone else find this ironic / hilarious?

Stallman is an advocate of copyleft, which that condition falls in line with. It's similar to the GPL license that has to be shipped verbatim with GPL code and places restrictions on how the project can be distributed (eg source must be available upon request). What you're asking to do is akin to copyfree (eg BSD) which is a different type of "free".

From what I see, copyleft strictly allows for modification too, as long as the derived work also is licensed under the same terms. His clause prevents any modification.

Re: Reasons not to use Skype (2012)

#79
post #65

"Verbatim copying and redistribution of this entire page are permitted provided this notice is preserved." - Stallman's blog is not giving me the freedom to distribute the blog as please. It is infringing on my freedom. Anyone else find this ironic / hilarious?

Surely you still have freedom to distribute it as you wish. He just wants it to make sure you attribute the source, which ethically you should anyway.

If the post were GNU Public Licensed, which additionally forces you to release any text that quotes his text under the same license, then I'd be inclined to agree with you.

Re: Reasons not to use Skype (2012)

#80
post #65

"Verbatim copying and redistribution of this entire page are permitted provided this notice is preserved." - Stallman's blog is not giving me the freedom to distribute the blog as please. It is infringing on my freedom. Anyone else find this ironic / hilarious?

Why would that be ironic ? It's ensuring others receive the same freedom for the copy you make of the page, which is also the essence of the GPL license, and the whole philosophy of the FSF.

My issue is with the no-modification part. This is the exact argument he gives for not using some software - that users are not free to modify the software and hence it is malicious.
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