Is there any usable alternative for voice calls? Ring and Tox had problems setting up connection from android to debian linux last time I tried both of them. I really want to replace Skype with something so I can stop using Google Play. Signal is not an option as it is only available via Google Play too. [0] https://ring.cx/ [1] https://tox.chat/
Reasons not to use Skype (2012)
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Re: Reasons not to use Skype (2012)
#42Among the few alternatives available are Google (hangouts) and Facebook.
Stallman waves his hand and mentions Jitsi and Mumble which aren't comparable in features to Skype (Chat + Voice + video + desktop sharing on all platforms including mobile). Jitsi does look promising but not quite complete.
A chat/voice app is like a social network, it has a critical mass so I can't switch unless everyone else does or my alternative is interoperable.
Software being free as in speech is perhaps twice as important to me as it is for the average user, but that still means I'd rather have a polished proprietary app that spies on me, than an unpolished free alternative. Skype is exceptionally bad, so shouldn't be too hard to beat in terms of polish.
Re: Reasons not to use Skype (2012)
#43I use the Matrix messaging client riot.fm instead
What is riot.fm? Maybe https://riot.im/ ? Is it able to do at least audio calls?
Forewarning that while it supports end-to-end encryption for the chatting bits, the actual audio data is not encrypted. The call request/advertisement can be encrypted though!
Re: Reasons not to use Skype (2012)
#44I am not sure who this guy is, but he seems a little out of this world.
While his technical accomplishments are certainly commendable, he is a first rate asshole, see why Libreboot left GNU and also his conference rider. https://github.com/ddol/rre-rms/blob/master/rider.txt
this must be why GNU/Linux is a perfect match. Have those guys actually met or do their egos not fit inside one room?
Re: Reasons not to use Skype (2012)
#45I am not sure who this guy is, but he seems a little out of this world.
While his technical accomplishments are certainly commendable, he is a first rate asshole, see why Libreboot left GNU and also his conference rider. https://github.com/ddol/rre-rms/blob/master/rider.txt
He lays out, reasonably, the conditions under which he will speak. He asks for tea, and Pepsi, not Coke.
Seems utterly reasonable to me.
Re: Reasons not to use Skype (2012)
#46"Public agencies exist for the people, not for themselves. When they do computing, they do it for the people. They have a duty to maintain full control over that computing so that they can assure it is done properly for the people. They must never allow control over the state's computing to fall into private hands."
This guy has a lot of faith in government and his treatise actually sounds rather Marxist. History is littered with public agencies that obstensiby exist for the "people," but in fact exist for no other reason than to enforce the power of the state. I don't trust government -- I endure it. Government is necessary in a way not dissimilar to the necessity of colonoscopies.
Re: Reasons not to use Skype (2012)
#47Is there any usable alternative for voice calls? Ring and Tox had problems setting up connection from android to debian linux last time I tried both of them. I really want to replace Skype with something so I can stop using Google Play. Signal is not an option as it is only available via Google Play too. [0] https://ring.cx/ [1] https://tox.chat/
Re: Reasons not to use Skype (2012)
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Stallman won't like it but Facebook Messenger has voice calling built in now and it works very well. I was calling someone in SE Asia from rural Massachusetts recently and the quality was great with very low latency. It felt like a natural conversation given the connectivity challenges on both ends.
Interesting. I can't see myself using it for work though, which the majority of my Skype calls tend to be.
http://appear.in/some_words_doesnt_matter <- share with whoever, instant video call
Re: Reasons not to use Skype (2012)
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
While his technical accomplishments are certainly commendable, he is a first rate asshole, see why Libreboot left GNU and also his conference rider. https://github.com/ddol/rre-rms/blob/master/rider.txt
While I don't disagree that he sounds, in general, like a bit of a douche, you can hardly say that this rider makes him an asshole. He lays out, reasonably, the conditions under which he will speak. He asks for tea, and Pepsi, not Coke. Seems utterly reasonable to me.
Re: Reasons not to use Skype (2012)
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
While his technical accomplishments are certainly commendable, he is a first rate asshole, see why Libreboot left GNU and also his conference rider. https://github.com/ddol/rre-rms/blob/master/rider.txt
> While his technical accomplishments are certainly commendable, he is a first rate asshole this must be why GNU/Linux is a perfect match. Have those guys actually met or do their egos not fit inside one room?