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Bootstrap 4 Alpha 6 Released

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Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 6 Released

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I am not updated so just asking: did they solve the problem related to not passing even low values needed for color accessibility tests?

Bootstrap 3 launched with a handful of low-contrast default colours. Those got fixed a while ago, but that makes Bootstrap 3 adhere to WCAG etc. I don't know.

At any rate, the colours are parameterised, so supply your own.

Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 6 Released

#52
post #50

We built our (niche B2B) app on Bootstrap and keep getting compliments from customers about how good it looks. I don't mind that lots of graphic designers hate it; Bootstrap has provided tremendous value for us. I bought the templates just as a way to thank them :-)

When the world expects GridViews..

You snark, but that is what the world expects - a grid gives the user a simple, tidy, and consistent layout across the whole of the app. It might be "boring" and it might result in an "all apps look the same" world, but it's hard to challenge when users claim they enjoy, and are willing to pay for, apps built with it.

Also, the whole "every app looks the same" opinion is only true if you're a developer or a serial startup beta tester. Most actual users who'll pay for your product don't see that many SaaS apps, so they don't realise so many apps use Bootstap. Their opinion counts for a lot more than a typical HN reader who might see it several times a day (obviously this isn't true if your market is HN readers).

Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 6 Released

#53

We built our (niche B2B) app on Bootstrap and keep getting compliments from customers about how good it looks. I don't mind that lots of graphic designers hate it; Bootstrap has provided tremendous value for us. I bought the templates just as a way to thank them :-)

+1. As a small development company with limited resources (read: one developer and no designated front end designer), Bootstrap gives me the opportunity to create a really nice looking web app without having to get bogged down with CSS details.

Plus the fact that there is a really rich ecosystem around Bootstrap with third party templates that are VERY well written and documented. I am not too proud to say that I routinely go to wrapbootstrap.com to purchase a template for ~$20 and use it as the basis for my web apps. Users love it, and I save having to hire or contract a dedicated front end designer.

Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 6 Released

#54
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hear, hear. This is a common issue for me as well. I have several forms in my web apps where I would like to use space more effectively by placing short fields (e.g. Start Date / End Date) next to each other under longer fields. At the moment, I have to do the dance of creating a new "row" class and two "col-lg-6" DIVs to manually arrange these while still keeping things responsive (i.e. so the shorter fields appear…

I hear you two. I'll look into it for the beta. Opened an issue at https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/issues/21581 — feel free to chime in with any specific examples or requests.

It's these sorts of tight feedback loops that makes HN great. Thanks for all of your hard work!

Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 6 Released

#58

So everything is flexbox now? How about Safari compatibility then?

Safari supports Flexbox without caveat in versions 9 and 10 (versions 6-8 have varying degrees of support for the first version of the flexbox spec). I work on a decently large global web property (~5m sessions/mo) and Safari Thankfully the bulk of Safari users (unlike IE users) update to newer versions pretty quickly when they're available.

Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 6 Released

#59

So everything is flexbox now? How about Safari compatibility then?

Safari supports Flexbox without caveat in versions 9 and 10 (versions 6-8 have varying degrees of support for the first version of the flexbox spec). I work on a decently large global web property (~5m sessions/mo) and Safari Thankfully the bulk of Safari users (unlike IE users) update to newer versions pretty quickly when they're available.

I think you happen to not have encountered the bugs described here:

https://github.com/philipwalton/flexbugs/blob/master/README....

1. Minimum content sizing of flex items not honored (only fixed in Safari 10)

9. Some HTML elements can't be flex containers (not fixed)

11. Min and max size declarations are ignored when wrapping flex items (seems to be fixed only recently)

14. Flex containers with wrapping the container is not sized to contain its items (not fixed)

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