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Re: I've removed all ad network code from my blog

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He hasn't removed all third party scripts. A quick check shows Google Analytics and Disqus (which uses an iframe), there is also some webfont stuff going on.

facebook as well...

Facebook is actually coming via Disqus! See:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13338841

https://blog.dantup.com/2017/01/visiting-a-site-that-uses-di...

Re: I've removed all ad network code from my blog

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It's typical for a page to require 5-50 requests. For starter, one should understand the difference between HTTP requests, page views and unique users. 600k HTTP requests => 60k page views (if 10 requests per page). Bots may generate lots of requests but won't hit GA. 60% of users (typical HN audience) will view pages but block GA (adblocks). Your numbers are not surprising.

My site has only 6 requests per page to CloudFront, coming out to about 100k uniques, and I only saw 8% of that in Google Analytics. How is a number five times less than your prediction not surprising? Your "one should understand the difference" comment makes me think you didn't even read mine, as I explain the difference in it.

Check the user agent (don't think GA saves that). It's likely bots.

Check the referer. If it's viagra sites, it's referer bot spam.

Re: I've removed all ad network code from my blog

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It's incredibly toxic behavior and should be mandated that people reply to a post before downvoting it. "Hey, let's penalize that person for participating!"

It depends on how things have shaped up over time. I have read before that pg is ok with the use of downvotes to indicate disagreement or annoyance without follow up comments. Here's that comment from nearly nine years ago: [1] > pg 3246 days ago | on: PG on trolls > I think it's ok to use the up and down arrows to express agreement. Obviously the uparrows aren't only for applauding politeness, so it seems reasonable…

seems like there needs to be one down arrow for simply disagreeing with the comment, and another clickable entity for flagging that comment as inapproproriate/impolite/notconstructive/toxic, etc.

Re: I've removed all ad network code from my blog

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It depends on how things have shaped up over time. I have read before that pg is ok with the use of downvotes to indicate disagreement or annoyance without follow up comments. Here's that comment from nearly nine years ago: [1] > pg 3246 days ago | on: PG on trolls > I think it's ok to use the up and down arrows to express agreement. Obviously the uparrows aren't only for applauding politeness, so it seems reasonable…

seems like there needs to be one down arrow for simply disagreeing with the comment, and another clickable entity for flagging that comment as inapproproriate/impolite/notconstructive/toxic, etc.

HN does have flags. You click the timestamp and the flag link shows up.

Re: I've removed all ad network code from my blog

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> The answer is clear, it's just not what people want to hear: metered paywalls or a subscription model (or, you know, selling an actual product / service). That basically says the art only worth caring about is art produced by artists who produce a large, consistent volume of work. Any one who produces small things, or infrequent things, falls under the threshold where the perceived effort to set up a subscription o…

I'm not sure art is the exemplar you want to bring up. There's a reason that the "starving artist" is a meme. And, previous to modern times, art was largely a patronage-based business. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patronage#Arts

I never claimed earlier economic models for creative works were optimal either. :)

But I do think with today's increasingly short attention spans, the granularity of consuming creative works keeps going down, which makes the transaction friction more and more of a problem.

Re: I've removed all ad network code from my blog

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I have the same philosophy. I have, over the last couple of years, stripped Javascript and other external assets from my site. First I removed Disqus from my blog, because Internet comments are a cesspit anyway. Then I removed Google Analytics because the tracking outweighs the benefits. Then I removed an externally-loaded font. I finally figured out the last thing, a little bit of JS that Cloudflare was injecting to…

I kind of miss analytics but I don't want to force my readers to run Javascript just to satisfy my curiosity. I can go through my logs if I want to see how many people read a page. My old wordpress blog got so few legitimate comments that I never bother to add a commenting system into my new software. Even when a post got hundreds of reads due to being linked on slashdot or whatever, very few people left comments dir…

> I kind of miss analytics

piwik.org is free software, can be self-hosted.

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