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Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)

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Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)

#51
I would really like to support Mozilla again, but they have had an unreasonable amount of exploits recently, add to this the fact that support for my most beloved tools are gone (Firebug & TamperData) I really see no other point in sticking with FF than a political or ideological agenda.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)

#52
I've recently forced myself to switch back to Firefox after 2 years of Chrome, but honestly the performances even on high end machines aren't on par with Chrome, it all feels a bit more sluggish and slower.

And I'm having a lot of issues with html5 video playback especially on prime video.

I'm hoping that Electrolysis will improve the general performance at least.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)

#53
I recently switched back to Firefox after years of using Chrome. Previously, the few times I had to fire up Firefox for development purposes it seemed sluggish to me. Not anymore.

Firefox has been super responsive to me, using less memory than the same browsing activity would on Chrome & Firefox-only (afaik) add-ons like Self Destructing Cookies are A+. On Android, Firefox Mobile works just as good or better than Chrome.

From a developer standpoint, Mozilla's recent work on the Web Extensions API (which is an almost complete match with Chrome's) is outstanding.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)

#54
post #34

People choose firefox over IE because firefox was better. People choose chrome over firefox and IE because chrome is better. Want to beat google? create better. Not negativity.

This. I think we've seen throughout societal history that if you want to affect change you have to do it through the path of least resistance for consumers; this means creating a better browser experience that people use not because they want to revolt, but because they gain utility from doing so.

Can I ask something? For me Firefox IS better. Chrome on Android doesnt seem to support extensions (so no uBlock), doesn't have reader view, and would highly prefer it if I signed in. Orfox and Firefox both do not have these issues.

Even on desktop, I prefer Firefox (although mostly due to higher familiarity with it). Does Chrome really have some killer feature that I'm not seeing? I can't seem to figure out where exactly Firefox lacks.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)

#55
post #37

Why should I use Firefox, or any other browser, from a standard consumer prospective? Let me preface this by saying I am open to a new browser, especially one that is always in "incognito" and doesn't share sessions between tabs/windows. My favorite is Lynx but that doesn't always work . Facebook & Messenger for Android is pretty much spyware and they have over 1B downloads each, so that takes spying out of the discu…

Choosing linux at the time when you had to compile drivers, apply patches before you could get a monitor properly running was also not very user "standard" from a consumer perspective. But that spirit of trying out a piece of software that gives your more freedom, or allows a more open ecosystem to thrive is and will always be a good reason.

Browsers and mobile OSes are two places where I think even we as developers have accepted the closed and encumbered ecosystem as the status quo because the alternatives are not user friendly.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)

#56
The only effective monetization strategy I've seen for a browser is search. So Google is in a very strong position to make money on Chrome. The problem that Firefox has is that there is no real competition for search anymore. That limits their ability to monetize and their ability to invest in the browser.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)

#57
> Unlike Apple and Microsoft, Mozilla is totally committed to the standards-based Web platform as a long-term strategy against lock-in.

This may sound great in theory, but I have serious doubts that Mozilla can deliver on that. At least from my perspective, their decisions in the more recent past have been erratic at best. They even happily implemented DRM when everyone else was doing it. At the moment it feels like Firefox is just copying what everyone else is doing, slightly worse.

And even if Chrome "wins", it's still open source, for the most part. If Google abuses their power, then the thing will be forked and their hole user base will be split. I'm pretty sure Google doesn't want that.

If you want to worry about something, worry about Google controlling Android. They already implemented lock-in there, it's a huge pain to fork in any reasonable way (see CynogenMod) and they control > 85% of the market. But sadly, Mozilla failed here quite spectacularly, because they simply didn't have the resources for it.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)

#58

I notice Firefox does not feel as responsive as Chrome is. On my reasonably powerful system, switching between tabs is slow, even slower when large photos load. It's holding me back. I'm typing this from Vivaldi, because I'm constantly looking for a replacement that feels fast and I can have the few 4-5 extensions I typically use.

I'd suggest creating a new profile in Firefox and checking it again. I use Firefox with tons of tabs and don't notice any lag in tab switching. I also don't have multiprocess enabled automatically (when I tried it about a year ago or so it was slower, but it has improved quite a bit in my reading).

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)

#59
post #37

Why should I use Firefox, or any other browser, from a standard consumer prospective? Let me preface this by saying I am open to a new browser, especially one that is always in "incognito" and doesn't share sessions between tabs/windows. My favorite is Lynx but that doesn't always work . Facebook & Messenger for Android is pretty much spyware and they have over 1B downloads each, so that takes spying out of the discu…

I think your answer is in the title. I'm not sure how concrete you want to go in terms of answers?

The reason you should is mostly constituted from all the things your browser does that you don't know about.

I get that's a hard sell.

Firefox is (currently) measurably much less binary exploit secure than Chrome, but it is the browser with a development community thats trying hard not to sell you out.

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