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Norway to become first country to switch off FM radio

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Re: Norway to become first country to switch off FM radio

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Don't most smartphones have emergency broadcasts built-in these days? Who doesn't have their phone on them when they're driving in a car?

If I remember, it plays some kind of tone, and pops the alert up in text.

> Who doesn't have their phone on them when they're driving in a car?

Who's checking their texts when they're driving a car? Thankfully, that's a ticketable offense in my area now.

Re: Norway to become first country to switch off FM radio

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Are you sure your phone doesn't have an FM radio? A lot of phones have it built-in (just need to have headphones plugged in for the antenna), but don't advertise it much.

But without a custom rom it isn't exposed. This is part of the conspiracy by my mobile carrier to make me buy their hella expensive data plan.

The radio in mine is (in an HTC One A9). I almost never have headphones with me though, so it's not usually of any practical use to me.

Re: Norway to become first country to switch off FM radio

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It is a real shame that the US went with the proprietary HD Radio scheme. The devices are so expensive and there hardly are any available. Just now I couldn't even find anything less than $100. What a scam. I feel sorry for all the radio stations that wasted money on this. Would DAB be able to gain ground in the US?

Re: Norway to become first country to switch off FM radio

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Anyone who doesn't own a mobile/cell phone?

A quickly vanishing segment of people. Probably not worth worrying about.

Yeah, soon enough it will be gone, but radio is probably more robust in large scale emergency situations (insert catastrophe of your choice).

Personally, a cellphone hasn't become a routine item for me. I don't really carry one at the ready, though I have a few without plans. When necessary I pay for a month and charge one up.

Re: Norway to become first country to switch off FM radio

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I like that the UK will switch over once usage reaches 50% -- abandoning a huge number of listeners! They should abandon it when it becomes vestigial -- say more than L5K/listener/year or something like that. Clearly money or techno-determinism is at play.

I believe they said they will look again at the issue once usage exceeds 50%. Which would probably mean a decision to switch including a multiyear runway.

Re: Norway to become first country to switch off FM radio

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As a US citizen, I cannot imagine a world without FM radio. It's almost the only option for in-vehicle audio. I've heard of such a thing as AM radio, but outside of billboards stating that accident information on interstate highways is available via that frequency, I have no connection to it. I've heard pray-tell that NPR broadcasts on such frequencies as well, but I can neither confirm nor deny that. I suspect that…

> It's almost the only option for in-vehicle audio

Also, satellite radio is common.

Re: Norway to become first country to switch off FM radio

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I wonder how smooth the switch will be (the article says cars are a big problem due to the price). I'd imagine quite a few people won't upgrade their car radio and you'd think...so what radio is way to retro let's just stream stuff and listen to mp3s/ogg.

I don't know if owning a radio is legally required in Norway but if it isn't I can see the radio ownership going down. Once again you may ask so what?

The biggest issue (for me) is that radio plays an essential part in crisis management. Imagine a long term power outage or some other crisis. With radios it's mostly a matter of keeping stations running and making sure the population knows that a battery powered (or crank powered) radio such as a car radio will work during a power outage. That's one of the few reliable ways of mass-communicating important information during power outages.

Re: Norway to become first country to switch off FM radio

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I visited my hometown over the holidays, and the first thing I did after getting into the rental car was tune into the local Alt Rock FM station. The playlists (and most of the DJs) haven't change in the 10 years since high school. I kinda loved it.

My local alt-rock station has also turned itself into a golden oldies station without changing anything.

Re: Norway to become first country to switch off FM radio

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I believe it. That's not nearly enough bits.

It seems that to achieve the same perceived quality as FM you need about 160kbit/s (when using DAB). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_audio_broadcasting

If you live next to the radio tower, perhaps. I prefer to have more sound in my noise than FM can offer.
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