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Vivaldi – A Browser for Our Friends

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Re: Vivaldi – A Browser for Our Friends

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Developers of Vivaldi used to work on Opera browser.

Thank you for your kind words about Vivaldi. I was the co-founder of Opera and now co-founder of Vivaldi. A big part of the team is former Opera people. We are based in Norway and Iceland, mostly, with team members in a couple of other locations.

Thank you for the Opera, it was my primary browser for a number of years. And good luck to you with your new endeavor, you certainly have some right ideas in Vivaldi :)

Re: Vivaldi – A Browser for Our Friends

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I could've given it a try if it was opensource. But because it's closed I immediately classify it as vaporware, and as the browser is one of the two centers of my daily computing (the other being emacs), I won't invest in vaporware. I believe that opensourcing is the best choice of the company behind this.

The source is available at https://vivaldi.com/source/?lang=en_US

Re: Vivaldi – A Browser for Our Friends

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post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for your kind words about Vivaldi. I was the co-founder of Opera and now co-founder of Vivaldi. A big part of the team is former Opera people. We are based in Norway and Iceland, mostly, with team members in a couple of other locations.

Thank you for the Opera, it was my primary browser for a number of years. And good luck to you with your new endeavor, you certainly have some right ideas in Vivaldi :)

Thanks. We aim to please. :)

There is a lot more cool stuff in the pipeline. :)

Re: Vivaldi – A Browser for Our Friends

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A lot more interesting information on the Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivaldi_(web_browser) Looks like it uses Blink engine, first release was 8 months ago. Looks like you can also use Chrome extensions with it.

I was blown away by the customizability, I used Firefox with a split tab extension, yet this has native support.

Unfortunately you can't resize the split. I almost never want an exact 50-50 split. One webpage always scales better then the other in split mode.

Re: Vivaldi – A Browser for Our Friends

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I check in on Vivaldi every few months to see how it's coming along, and there are some things that I like. However, I think they're a bit TOO fixated on Opera as it was 15 years ago.

I keep waiting for bookmark sync, which today is a fundamental browser feature rather than a nice-to-have. But the Vivaldi guys insist on pouring resources into an integrated desktop email client instead, because that was a signature feature of Opera back in the day. However, it's probably no exaggeration to say that most users haven't used a desktop email client in over a decade. So why is such a retro throwback feature prioritized so high?

Another example is right-clicking a link in Vivaldi, to open it in a new tab. Every other major browser opens the link in a background tab, keeping the focus in the tab you're currently on. However, Vivaldi automatically jumps the focus over to that tab right away... because that was default Opera behavior 15 years ago. This is frequently brought up in Vivaldi forums, and the response from the devs is simply to grumble that old-school Opera was best and all other browsers today have bad defaults.

I'm a huge Opera fan, and have been for years. However, the thing is... I just don't WANT a re-implementation of Opera from 15 years ago. I'm sorry, but desktop email is dead for most of us. I'm sorry, but Chrome has acclimated us to some slightly different default behaviors, and at this point those are the defaults that I expect and want other browsers to mirror.

You want to enable a whole new level of customization for power users? That sounds AWESOME! You want to provide some security and an alternative path forward, for Opera fans who worry about that company's ownership changes? Great! But please don't be so beholden to the Opera of 2002 that you don't make an offering well-suited for 2017.

Re: Vivaldi – A Browser for Our Friends

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post #13

I could've given it a try if it was opensource. But because it's closed I immediately classify it as vaporware, and as the browser is one of the two centers of my daily computing (the other being emacs), I won't invest in vaporware. I believe that opensourcing is the best choice of the company behind this.

The source is available at https://vivaldi.com/source/?lang=en_US

What about the licence? There are five-six xz'ed tarballs there, each ~600 MBs.

Re: Vivaldi – A Browser for Our Friends

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post #13

I could've given it a try if it was opensource. But because it's closed I immediately classify it as vaporware, and as the browser is one of the two centers of my daily computing (the other being emacs), I won't invest in vaporware. I believe that opensourcing is the best choice of the company behind this.

The source is available at https://vivaldi.com/source/?lang=en_US

That is not the source, that's just their chromium patches.
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