Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Vivaldi – A Browser for Our Friends

vivaldi.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

21–30 of 193 posts

Re: Vivaldi – A Browser for Our Friends

#21

Post by gkya »

jaredklewis wrote: post #17
gkya wrote: post #13

I could've given it a try if it was opensource. But because it's closed I immediately classify it as vaporware, and as the browser is one of the two centers of my daily computing (the other being emacs), I won't invest in vaporware. I believe that opensourcing is the best choice of the company behind this.

You are using the word vaporware in a very odd way. Vaporware is stuff that won't actually come into existence. Vivaldi has already been publically available for nearly a year.

Sorry, yes, I intended "software that'll become useless, unmaintained and outdated rather quickly".

Re: Vivaldi – A Browser for Our Friends

#22

Post by ploxiln »

lsh wrote: post #9

I switched to Vivaldi as my default browser 6+ months ago after new-Opera became such an overwhelming disappointment I felt I had to abandon what it had become after fifteen or more years of use. Vivaldi definitely has the old Opera spirit, but not the performance. On original Opera I could have hundreds of tabs open, in Vivaldi I can have 60? not such a big deal, right!? well it's partly that, partly just a constant…

I fear this is largely due to modern websites. If you used old Opera on modern websites they would be broken (lack of new features) and still pretty slow.

JS and image sizes have gone up exponentially. I remember discussion on Slashdot a decade ago about average page size going above 100KB - now the average is easily into multiple megabytes. It "works fine" in chrome on a macbook pro so who gives fuck, right? We can't go back to an older web - we can't get off this train, and we can't slow it down, it's inexorably pulled forward by market mechanisms way bigger than we are.

Re: Vivaldi – A Browser for Our Friends

#24

Post by cyberferret »

ploxiln wrote: post #22
lsh wrote: post #9

I switched to Vivaldi as my default browser 6+ months ago after new-Opera became such an overwhelming disappointment I felt I had to abandon what it had become after fifteen or more years of use. Vivaldi definitely has the old Opera spirit, but not the performance. On original Opera I could have hundreds of tabs open, in Vivaldi I can have 60? not such a big deal, right!? well it's partly that, partly just a constant…

I fear this is largely due to modern websites. If you used old Opera on modern websites they would be broken (lack of new features) and still pretty slow. JS and image sizes have gone up exponentially. I remember discussion on Slashdot a decade ago about average page size going above 100KB - now the average is easily into multiple megabytes. It "works fine" in chrome on a macbook pro so who gives fuck, right? We can'…

+1. I noticed the other day that a single Medium blog post downloaded MORE assets (in terms of MBs) that a multi user ERP application that I used to maintain in a large multi million dollar turnover business network back in the 80's. (And I am including the ERP database file sizes as well.)

Re: Vivaldi – A Browser for Our Friends

#26

Post by cyberferret »

chrisper wrote: post #25

My only concern is that it does not have settings / history sync yet.

But that will mean that you probably have to set up an account with Vivaldi.com, similar to how you have to do it on Google.com for Chrome.

Personally, I like not having to remember yet another set of login credentials for every app I use. Perhaps if they supported syncing of browser setups via DropBox, G-Drive etc. then it may be a way to (a) backup your browser settings in one place and (b) share it among your devices or even among work colleagues.

Re: Vivaldi – A Browser for Our Friends

#27

Post by netsharc »

ploxiln wrote: post #22
lsh wrote: post #9

I switched to Vivaldi as my default browser 6+ months ago after new-Opera became such an overwhelming disappointment I felt I had to abandon what it had become after fifteen or more years of use. Vivaldi definitely has the old Opera spirit, but not the performance. On original Opera I could have hundreds of tabs open, in Vivaldi I can have 60? not such a big deal, right!? well it's partly that, partly just a constant…

I fear this is largely due to modern websites. If you used old Opera on modern websites they would be broken (lack of new features) and still pretty slow. JS and image sizes have gone up exponentially. I remember discussion on Slashdot a decade ago about average page size going above 100KB - now the average is easily into multiple megabytes. It "works fine" in chrome on a macbook pro so who gives fuck, right? We can'…

And nowadays* Chrome unloads "old" tabs from memory, which must be a frustrating user experience for low memory users, open something in a new tab, try to go to the previous tab, and the browser had to load it again.

* Maybe they've fixed this

Of course it all works on the developer's machine, it has 16GB RAM, full HD screen and a connection straight to the backbone...

Re: Vivaldi – A Browser for Our Friends

#29

Post by Guest98123 »

gkya wrote: post #21
jaredklewis wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are using the word vaporware in a very odd way. Vaporware is stuff that won't actually come into existence. Vivaldi has already been publically available for nearly a year.

Sorry, yes, I intended "software that'll become useless, unmaintained and outdated rather quickly".

Abandonware.

Re: Vivaldi – A Browser for Our Friends

#30

Post by Elv13 »

gkya wrote: post #21
jaredklewis wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are using the word vaporware in a very odd way. Vaporware is stuff that won't actually come into existence. Vivaldi has already been publically available for nearly a year.

Sorry, yes, I intended "software that'll become useless, unmaintained and outdated rather quickly".

That's pre-abandonware
Post reply on HN