I've removed all ad network code from my blog

Post by arjie » Thu, Jan 05, 2017, 10:03 PM UTC

benchaney wrote: post #244

arjie wrote: post #209

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Specifically, the day job shouldn't be too enjoyable if you're making money from it. Once it is, you should start doing it for free and find a job you find less enjoyable. That just follows in a straightforward way. Now, this may not seem absurd to you, but I dare say it will to most people.

That only follows from what he said if you completely ignore the context. I honestly can't tell if you actually don't understand that, or if you are being deliberately clueless.

Post by rsync » Thu, Jan 05, 2017, 10:23 PM UTC

AndrewStephens wrote: post #84

I went a step further and designed my blog ( https://sheep.horse/ ) not to use any third-party resources at all. This was easy for me because I am never going to make money from my ramblings about Rogue One or the last book I read. I am actually not against advertising in principle, or even tracking if that is what you want, but the current trend to pull in lots of resources (ads, tracking scripts, web fonts, CDN jav…

Post by pilom » Thu, Jan 05, 2017, 11:06 PM UTC

rhizome wrote: post #268

jerf wrote: post #126

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The only problem with Flattr is that it doesn't work. Other than that it's great. I mean this both straight and a bit sarcastically. I'm ideologically inclined to want to see it work. But it doesn't, it hasn't, and I see little reason to expect that to change in the future. Patreon doesn't work perfectly, and perhaps there's an even better model waiting for someone to find it, but it does work. It does strike me as t…

Patreon doesn't work perfectly Where does patreon fail, aside from adoption and popularity?

Post by jdmichal » Thu, Jan 05, 2017, 11:12 PM UTC

munificent wrote: post #223

vintageseltzer wrote: post #168

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May I ask: if one is not "famous" (i.e. popular), why should one expect their site to be profitable from ads alone? If my limited edition, 250-prints-per-month 'zine isn't making money, is that the advertising industry's fault, or is there an issue with my expectations? People ask the "how do we fix dwindling ad-based revenue" question all the time. The answer is clear, it's just not what people want to hear: metered…

> The answer is clear, it's just not what people want to hear: metered paywalls or a subscription model (or, you know, selling an actual product / service). That basically says the art only worth caring about is art produced by artists who produce a large, consistent volume of work. Any one who produces small things, or infrequent things, falls under the threshold where the perceived effort to set up a subscription o…

Post by rtpg » Thu, Jan 05, 2017, 11:31 PM UTC

jerf wrote: post #74

rtpg wrote: post #24

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Patreon has proven itself to be a good model for a lot of bloggers out there with the right kind of following. The main issue is that to replace all advertising revenue across the board, everybody would need to pitch in something like $150/month. I like paying for things to get rid of ads, and I'm not even sure I'd make that commitment.

Where is your $150/month coming from? I'm not convinced the average user is worth that much in ads per month. The numbers I've seen coming out of Facebook put it in low-single digit dollars per month per user for Facebook, and I would tend to imagine they're getting more out than many rather than less. But, honest question, if you've got a good source on that I'd love to see it. (There's also the fact that the utilit…