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Irssi 1.0.0 Released

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Re: Irssi 1.0.0 Released

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Can anyone compare it to weechat? Never used irssi but weechat is my client of choice these days since my old client fell victim to the whole gtk2/gtk3 thing.

Apples and oranges - wee Is gui. Irssi is cli. It's "wee" - so it's minimal. Does a good job for its niche. Cli chat clients are more flexible, with all the complexity that brings with it - but they're usually robust. Command line graphics don't change much :) gui ones less so, but learning curve is not as steep. That said Xchat is hard to compare to weechat again, as it's a full fledged gui IRC client, rather than a…

Erm, pretty sure weechat is a CLI based IRC program. There's plenty of interfaces for it that expose a GUI, but at its core it's command line.

Re: Irssi 1.0.0 Released

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Can anyone compare it to weechat? Never used irssi but weechat is my client of choice these days since my old client fell victim to the whole gtk2/gtk3 thing.

Apples and oranges - wee Is gui. Irssi is cli. It's "wee" - so it's minimal. Does a good job for its niche. Cli chat clients are more flexible, with all the complexity that brings with it - but they're usually robust. Command line graphics don't change much :) gui ones less so, but learning curve is not as steep. That said Xchat is hard to compare to weechat again, as it's a full fledged gui IRC client, rather than a…

I'm not sure which WeeChat you're comparing to, but practically nothing you said applies to the weechat I know[1]. It's primary interface is a CLI one, it is incredibly flexible, and it's a full fledged IRC client with every single feature you listed.

[1]: https://weechat.org/

Re: Irssi 1.0.0 Released

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Apples and oranges - wee Is gui. Irssi is cli. It's "wee" - so it's minimal. Does a good job for its niche. Cli chat clients are more flexible, with all the complexity that brings with it - but they're usually robust. Command line graphics don't change much :) gui ones less so, but learning curve is not as steep. That said Xchat is hard to compare to weechat again, as it's a full fledged gui IRC client, rather than a…

Erm, pretty sure weechat is a CLI based IRC program. There's plenty of interfaces for it that expose a GUI, but at its core it's command line.

There's a distinction to be made between CLI and TUI (Text user interface, curses and the like) isn't there? I think maybe that's what godmodus was getting it (considering TUIs to be a kind of GUI).

Re: Irssi 1.0.0 Released

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The problem is that when you start a new project you definitely don't want to start at 1.0 and give people the impression that it's already working. Then when do you decide to go 1.0 if you keep adding features and moving the goalpost? That's kind of tricky for open source projects that don't have commercial releases.

If you have release criteria, sure, bump to 1.0 when you hit them. But if you don't have release criteria, just name it 1.0 and go from there. Version numbers don't matter as much as people think they do. This way we can avoid people having to type "0.7", "0.8" etc for 17 years instead of just "7" and "8".

I have been an irssi user for almost 15 years and I don't remember having typed the version number even once. Indeed, it does not matter so much as some people think.

Re: Irssi 1.0.0 Released

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Happy to see IRC still going strong. While I switched to irccloud.com a couple years ago--persistent session is so nice, especially for mobile!--I used CLI clients for years before. Amusing blast from the past: back in the 90's I worked at General Magic, and wrote my own IRC client [1] for our handheld devices. I attached a Metricom wireless modem to the bottom of mine and could be on IRC from anywhere ; it was like…

I wanted to use irccloud, but many IRC networks ban it in a blanket policy against "browser-based clients" because they can't get an IP address to ban if you misbehave.

Re: Irssi 1.0.0 Released

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Does it not bother you that irccloud can see everything you type/read on IRC?

Every client and every server can log everything in IRC. You don't do private chats in there.

That's what DCC Chat is for, of course no one uses it because DCC is insane.

Re: Irssi 1.0.0 Released

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Why but just run a bouncer like znc? I even have push notifications when I get tagged or a add a special keyword.

No mobile clients that adaquately supports server-time / playback. I use znc+rcirx w/ some hacks to support server-time, but I still use irccloud on my phone. I can get push notifications to my phone with a ZNC module so that's not really the hold up.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.iskrembile...

Requires Quassel server

Re: Irssi 1.0.0 Released

#69

Happy to see IRC still going strong. While I switched to irccloud.com a couple years ago--persistent session is so nice, especially for mobile!--I used CLI clients for years before. Amusing blast from the past: back in the 90's I worked at General Magic, and wrote my own IRC client [1] for our handheld devices. I attached a Metricom wireless modem to the bottom of mine and could be on IRC from anywhere ; it was like…

>While I switched to irccloud.com a couple years ago--persistent session is so nice, especially for mobile!

https://riot.im with it's excellent IRC bridge is a solid alternative now (and fully open source).

Re: Irssi 1.0.0 Released

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Happy to see IRC still going strong. While I switched to irccloud.com a couple years ago--persistent session is so nice, especially for mobile!--I used CLI clients for years before. Amusing blast from the past: back in the 90's I worked at General Magic, and wrote my own IRC client [1] for our handheld devices. I attached a Metricom wireless modem to the bottom of mine and could be on IRC from anywhere ; it was like…

I wanted to use irccloud, but many IRC networks ban it in a blanket policy against "browser-based clients" because they can't get an IP address to ban if you misbehave.

It's more work but I've found Quassel + quassel-webserver ( https://github.com/magne4000/quassel-webserver ) to be a good alternative.
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