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I've removed all ad network code from my blog

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Re: I've removed all ad network code from my blog

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Stunning, I'll admit, but this can't be an easy or lightweight solution to implement, I'd imagine. Kudos either way, there aren't too many things that immediately made me lean toward the screen like that.

Thanks! It's not lightweight -- the average script include I have right now is around 280k. I'm going to be able to reduce it in the next few months to around 150k, I believe. Once downloaded, the processing of it itself is not too intensive.

You consider 280k script lightweight? Wow.

Have you tested this on some cheap, low-end, Chinese phones with the default browser?

Re: I've removed all ad network code from my blog

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Why do blogs need readers to log in?

So commenters have to go through a registration process before commenting. It makes moderation easier.

> It makes moderation easier.

This is why there is no spam on self-hosted WordPress. Oh, wait.

Re: I've removed all ad network code from my blog

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One thing I've always admired about Apple is that they use no third-party scripts. And I thus always think "If that works for Apple, which is arguable the most successful company, why don't other companies follow their successful model?" I still have no good answer to that question. Also, I followed this troyhunt.com post to the "Ad blockers are part of the problem" post - which I found to be an even more interesting…

There are plenty of giant corporations with no ads on their website. When you already hire teams of ops staffers, the trickle of money from online ads is going to be next to worthless.

Re: I've removed all ad network code from my blog

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> Why does your personal website need sponsorship at all? Why should people pay you for it? This commercial mindset is very weird to me. Because personal blogging can also be a business for some? It's not like every personal blog does it -- the huge majority are their for free, with no ads or anything. But if you devote the time and effort, and have an audience, why not? It's like saying pro dancers shouldn't exist,…

I don't know--GP post has a valid point of view even if people disagree. I also feel it takes a bit of nerve to think that you should be financially compensated for writing your personal blog, no matter how big your audience is or how much time or effort you devote to it. Just because you CAN monetize something doesn't mean you should.

>I also feel it takes a bit of nerve to think that you should be financially compensated for writing your personal blog //

Surely it depends on whether you're writing for your own benefit or the benefit of others. If you write to benefit - by the action, catharsis, etc., of writing - yourself then of course not but if you write to entertain, inform, etc. others then it seems reasonable that those who consume that writing to that end should get their costs covered in some way.

I guess we could have arms length government managed blogging platforms, that would enable people to blog, others to consume the beneficial ones and avoid commercial entities being involved in the system (I think if you look current free blogging platforms probably can be traced back to advertised commercial entities?).

It probably all depends on what sort of profit a blog is making. If they're actually paying themselves a living wage from their personal blog then arguably that shows it has value and that they should be socially allowed the opportunity to be paid (through the proxy of advertising) for that blog. I'd warrant from my experience that most blogs don't cover costs with the advertising they carry if you considered the act of writing them a commercial undertaking (eg UK min wage is ~£8 ph, so a blog writer would need to receive enough to cover ~£12ph to be covering wage cost alone; how many of the millions of blogs ever made do that?)?

Re: I've removed all ad network code from my blog

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An alternative to Disqus. * Discourse || https://www.discourse.org/ * Embedding Discourse Comments via Javascript - howto - Discourse Meta || https://meta.discourse.org/t/embedding-discourse-comments-vi... EDIT: Love the instant downvotes without any comments on why. Downvotes are totally helpful and not the least bit petty and stupid. I have 2 client using Discourse on their production sites and it works great.

"Please resist commenting about being downvoted. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading." [1] [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Re: I've removed all ad network code from my blog

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I find a lot of value in federated login through Google and Facebook. I'd rather have the hardest parts of authentication handled by their services than relying on thousands of different developers rolling their own solutions with varying levels of sanity.

Why do blogs need readers to log in?

this was in response to:

> As builders of web systems, we need to be conscious of which 3rd parties are gaining access to private user data. There's no reason in hell any Google or Facebook widget should be embedded in my health care providers website, yet somehow that's a thing. Any other website is usually even worse.

Re: I've removed all ad network code from my blog

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An alternative to Disqus. * Discourse || https://www.discourse.org/ * Embedding Discourse Comments via Javascript - howto - Discourse Meta || https://meta.discourse.org/t/embedding-discourse-comments-vi... EDIT: Love the instant downvotes without any comments on why. Downvotes are totally helpful and not the least bit petty and stupid. I have 2 client using Discourse on their production sites and it works great.

"Please resist commenting about being downvoted. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading." [1] [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

It's incredibly toxic behavior and should be mandated that people reply to a post before downvoting it.

"Hey, let's penalize that person for participating!"

Re: I've removed all ad network code from my blog

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He says ad blockers are part of the problem, and yet he's effectively doing ad-blocking on his end too. Ad blockers prevent the kind of stuff he doesn't like from getting in on the client side, he's manually rejected them on the server side. Notice that his "sponsorship" banners are not going to be blocked by ad blockers. There are two fundamental problems that gave rise to the ad networks: 1) Scale - nobody wants to…

If I had to pick between relative anonymity and ads, I would pick anonymity every time. I'd love for the internet to go full São Paulo. Don't care what services I have to lose or pay for in the process either.

Not heard "to go full São Paulo" before, appears to refer to this https://www.adbusters.org/article/sao-paulo-a-city-without-a....

Re: I've removed all ad network code from my blog

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May I ask: if one is not "famous" (i.e. popular), why should one expect their site to be profitable from ads alone? If my limited edition, 250-prints-per-month 'zine isn't making money, is that the advertising industry's fault, or is there an issue with my expectations? People ask the "how do we fix dwindling ad-based revenue" question all the time. The answer is clear, it's just not what people want to hear: metered…

On the other hand, this will lead to us only being able to read the blogs and personal websites of people who are able to dip into their own money and time to make and host a blog. I'd be very interested in reading about the life of exactly not that kind of person.

Tumblr, Live Journal, Blogger, (among others) are free and useful for just that.
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