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Learning to code at 56

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Re: Learning to code at 56

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At my age the main problem is that I read a lot in a computer screen and my eyes get tired. Recently I read in the last weak several books for learning Erlang and Elixir and one for refreshing ruby. Last month I learned java by doing several projects with netbeans. Initially I programmwd only with gedit and googling stack overflow. I was programming feom six pm to five am to help my son with a java project. Honestly…

They make "computer glasses" that are supposed to help reduce eye strain associated with computer use. I don't personally use them so I can't say if they work, but it's probably worth it for you to look into them.

Computer glasses work great for me. I'm mildly myopic, but at 58 found I could no longer focus on desktop screens ~2 feet away. So I got computer eyeglasses (my normal prescription divided in half). They've made a huge difference. Everything's clear again. However my more myopic sister could never make hers work, so YMMV.

I'm generally OK with spec swapping, but I'm tempted to replace my primary glasses with bifocal/trifocal/progressives which in theory should end the swapping. I'm just not so sure I'd like tilting my head in order to change focus. :-/

Re: Learning to code at 56

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Well, if it is not an ad, at least is some astroturfing, how come the BIG photo is not that of the actual guy? The image on the article is this one: https://i2.wp.com/tobecomeateacher.org/wp-content/uploads/20... "Stock photo" by Jake Barford: https://unsplash.com/@jakebarford The photo of Mr. Vaughn, (from his "profile"): https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/fit/c/100/100/1*Lu4bKAqf2Sxm...

jaclaz - nice detective work. Photo seemed a little too perfect.

Re: Learning to code at 56

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Speaking as a 43-year old, while I do have some health issues that I didn't have in my 20's, perhaps somewhat surprisingly, I find learning new things as easy as it's ever been. And I honestly don't think I am unusual in that regard. I have a much wider framework of accumulated knowledge than I did 20 years ago, and leveraging that, I can see how wider parts of systems interrelate with a clarity that I never came clo…

I'm 37 and I find that I'm smarter and wiser now than I was in my 20s which makes learning much easier even if my brain is almost double the age.

I'm about the same age and feel the same way. In my 20's I would actually avoid learning something because "I know that stuff already" (Spoiler: I didn't) Now I'm thirsty for new knowledge, and much more willing to admit when I don't know something.

Re: Learning to code at 56

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It does take longer for many people to learn new things when they are 50-60 though. I do think we have to be realistic about the issue that many people who learned and performed complex intellectual skills in their 20s/30s no longer perform this kind of ability to pivot in their 50s/60s; to learn a new craft that depends on learning a lot of new information/skills. Of course this doesn't mean that all people in their…

Speaking as a 43-year old, while I do have some health issues that I didn't have in my 20's, perhaps somewhat surprisingly, I find learning new things as easy as it's ever been. And I honestly don't think I am unusual in that regard. I have a much wider framework of accumulated knowledge than I did 20 years ago, and leveraging that, I can see how wider parts of systems interrelate with a clarity that I never came clo…

Baeocystin - I fit that bill. I am 63. I can learn still but my ability grasp really complex random info has fallen off. My ability to learn info that I am passionate about not so much.

I have learned what I can learn and how to learn. In college I could retain a lot for a little time period. Today my short term memory for syntax is not so good. In the book dyslexic advantage[1] they state that dyslexic's short term memory is not as good as the general population but our conceptual memory / ability to visualize is heightened. I am dyslexic and find this to be true. So I learn concepts and thank google every day for syntax.

[1] https://www.amazon.com/Dyslexic-Advantage-Unlocking-Hidden-P...

Also Baeocystin I like your HN handle.

Edit: Typo Added link to dyslexic advantage

Re: Learning to code at 56

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I submitted this yesterday around Noon and got 3 votes. Today, here it is in another submission. Take a look at the URL. HN apparently uses the entire URL, including hashes, which means this is considered a separate submission. Interesting.

Re: Learning to code at 56

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At 51, I've noticed there are really two kinds of people at my age... people who are completely beaten, and people who are winning. Once you hit 40 or so, the scope of mortality really hits you. You realize that you've probably already had half your productive life, maybe half a career. You start seeing peers die of "old age" - heart attacks and strokes and stuff. For most, they're beaten, defeated. They decide this…

While I see the clock on the wall, I also remember that it really doesn't take long for something wonderful to transpire if it's ready to do so. Time is timeless, if you live it properly. Being "defeated" is just life asking you to be a bit more present in what you are doing. Picking up the tools at the end of a long day of remodeling the bathroom, for example. Worrying the clock is running out is counter to being present in anything done properly. I'm 50 and if anything, I've learned I'm not stopping to worry about the constraints my life gifts me at times.

Re: Learning to code at 56

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I submitted this yesterday around Noon and got 3 votes. Today, here it is in another submission. Take a look at the URL. HN apparently uses the entire URL, including hashes, which means this is considered a separate submission. Interesting.

HN is a hit or miss.

If you don't get upvoted quickly, you'll get missed. Several weeks ago, 3 of 4 stories that i submitted within two days were completely passed over, only to be resubmitted by other people, which ended up on the front page. One story was even #1 for several hours.

Re: Learning to code at 56

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I'd rather die of an abscessed tooth than visit a doctor out of whatever the equivalent of bootcamps would be. I'm grateful to society I don't have to.

Not me. If some quack who went to a six month "doctor bootcamp" can remove the abscessed tooth that would otherwise kill me, I'd hand him the pliers and beg for help. Because there's a need, and that need is vital.

Accomplished and well-trained doctors (or, humans)) make enough mistakes as it is.

Re: Learning to code at 56

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does take longer for many people to learn new things when they are 50-60 though. I do think we have to be realistic about the issue that many people who learned and performed complex intellectual skills in their 20s/30s no longer perform this kind of ability to pivot in their 50s/60s; to learn a new craft that depends on learning a lot of new information/skills. Of course this doesn't mean that all people in their…

Speaking as a 43-year old, while I do have some health issues that I didn't have in my 20's, perhaps somewhat surprisingly, I find learning new things as easy as it's ever been. And I honestly don't think I am unusual in that regard. I have a much wider framework of accumulated knowledge than I did 20 years ago, and leveraging that, I can see how wider parts of systems interrelate with a clarity that I never came clo…

I'm not saying you're wrong and 43 is still fairly young (I'm only 35) so it's possible even if there was a difference that it could still be negligible and there's all sorts variables that go into how well people learn as they get older.

But you could be wrong. Can you really accurately track how well you learn on a day to day basis over a lifetime? Doubtful. Even if you could really only learn 85% as well as you did when you were 20 it would be a measurable difference objectively. But subjectively that decline would be so minimal from one day to the next you would have a hard time noticing the decline. And since you still feel sharp at 43, and you felt sharp at 20, well nothing has changed, even though it clearly has.

Also some people just lie to themselves about how capable they (still) are. If you've ever dealt with an aging relative who was losing their vision but resistant to giving up driving. Or in the beginning stages of dementia but was in denial about it. Human beings will generally do anything to avoid admitting declining abilities of any sort. Or they will temper an admission with a but of some sort. It's just part of the experience.

You bring up a point about experience. Knowledge and experience have value too, obviously. After all young children can learn faster than adults period, but they don't know anything yet, and that's a disadvantage. And being able to learn a little bit better isn't so attractive that you'd be willing to give up all your accumulated experience. I wouldn't either.

But I am sure I can share that experience with a 20 something with no knowledge about software development and they'll pick it up much faster than my 60 something mother with no knowledge and software development. And that's where the learning bit comes in. And learning one more thing in a subject you're already an expert in, isn't really a tall order. Starting from scratch, like most children or young adults have to do is a greater feat and put on the same playing field, in a subject where you really have no experience or expertise, you might find the competition a little stiffer than you remember it being than when you were a kid. Still at 43 you're still young, but at 53? 63? 73? At some point there will probably be some obvious differences in your abilities that just become more stark as you age, even if you fare amazingly well against your peers in the same age group.

Research that seems to support that people who spend a lot of energy on learning and thinking and doing mentally demanding activities do better cognitively in their old age. I hope it's true, and specifically I hope it's true in my case.

If age hasn't proven to be an impediment for learning yet I just wouldn't worry about it. And even if things get tougher to learn as you get older it's not boolean, you can still learn things if you put the effort in, if you still want to learn it. Being less capable != incapable. This isn't a scenario where any position other than #1 is tied with last place, or first place loser, or any other sort of trope you want.

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