Apple Removes New York Times Apps from iTunes Store in China

Post by seanmcdirmid » Thu, Jan 05, 2017, 1:35 AM UTC

Inconel wrote: post #90

schoen wrote: post #61

Something that might be comparably shocking is the extent to which Chinese investors and government representatives influence the content of Hollywood movies that depict or refer to China. There were some news reports about this in the last couple of years; I sat next to a Hollywood studio executive on a flight last month and (rather than arguing about copyright policy) commiserated about this issue. He confirmed tha…

I'm not a fan of this kind of government influence in filmmaking, but so long as the Chinese are at it maybe they could turn their attention to Hollywood's propensity to depict Asian males as undesirable emasculated nerds and Asian females as fetishized objects.

Post by throwaway122916 » Thu, Jan 05, 2017, 1:37 AM UTC

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #84

xnull2guest wrote: post #82

In the United States, it is illegal to portray the assassination of a president. Handling topics of National Security, such as Pearl Harbor, must be screened and if needed edited by National Security personnel. Close partnership and collective ownership of media production facilities has given us movies with fake narratives like the Jessica Lynch story, Zero Dark Thirty, etc.

> In the United States, it is illegal to portray the assassination of a president Full stop, no it isn't. > Handling topics of National Security, such as Pearl Harbor, must be screened and if needed edited by National Security personnel. Full stop, no it doesn't. Where the heck are you getting such misinformation? It is not just wrong, it is bordering on libel. > Close partnership and collective ownership of media pr…

Post by elastic_church » Thu, Jan 05, 2017, 1:40 AM UTC

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #76

elastic_church wrote: post #75

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Everyone that left or escaped Maoist China has an opinion of the mainland that is fixed in time, and is used to shape perception and policy towards the mainland that is completely incongruent with the sentiment on the mainland. Thats the only difference.

Well, China reinforces its Maoist image from time to time with goose stepping military parades that seem archaic today; then there is the bizarre censorship, and have you ever seen the cult of personality news cast at 7PM on CCTV? China does itself no favors in trying to shape a more modern updated perception of itself on the outside.

Post by throwaway122916 » Thu, Jan 05, 2017, 1:46 AM UTC

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #80

GuiA wrote: post #78

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American investors and government influence the content of Hollywood movies that depict the US or US activity, so I'm not sure why that should be particularly shocking. This is what happens in a globalized economy.

Except a movie could be totally subversive of the American government (the CIA or military is the bad guy, a national/state/local government is corrupt, etc...) and the movie could still go into wide production and make millions of dollars. Heck, it even is super easy to find examples of that (you want to know the truth? You can't handle the truth!). Now try doing that in China. Make the PLA the enemy or portray a co…

Post by throwaway122916 » Thu, Jan 05, 2017, 1:47 AM UTC

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #96

throwaway122916 wrote: post #93

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Surprisingly, in the UK it is illegal to do that to a king/queen. http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a3_3_1-2s8... From wiki: According to the law in force, it is treason felony to "compass, imagine, invent, devise, or intend"

Didn't know that. The USA has no such rule in place and you can in fact find many movies where the president is assinated (fictional and factual). It is doubly weird for the UK since the monarch is just a figure head. I wonder if the law applies to the prime minsiter (after watching London has Fallen, I guess not).