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Steve Jobs Tells Germans to Blame Their Government for iPad Price Difference

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Re: Steve Jobs Tells Germans to Blame Their Government for iPad Price Difference

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People in Europe usually have the VAT included in the advertised price, so I can see how people would be getting their hopes up when seeing the american prices.

this absolutely freaks us out in US - that we never see actual prices we're supposed to pay, only share of what seller is supposed to get (before paying her taxes).

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The headline makes it sound like Steve Jobs is being rude to Apple customers, but actually from the article, it seems like he's just curtly informing them of why the iPad price is 15 euros higher in Germany than in other european countries.

Jobs is quoted as saying: Please educate yourself. That seems rude to me. He might be responding to an equally rude complaint that was sent to him, but it still seems like bad PR to me.

I am loving his curt responses. Too many people on the internet are quick to complain without prior thought or research; nice to see them being put in their place.

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People in Europe usually have the VAT included in the advertised price, so I can see how people would be getting their hopes up when seeing the american prices.

OK, but the price differences are not just "before tax" vs "after tax". For instance, a friend of mine broght me this N900 from USA to Spain. After-tax comparison: 400€ vs. 600€.

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Hell, yeah! And I’m happy about it. High taxes but a lot of bang for the buck.

Not in the UK.

well, judging from what some UK politicians are saying, UK will soon be even less part of EU than it sort of is now.

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Jobs is quoted as saying: Please educate yourself. That seems rude to me. He might be responding to an equally rude complaint that was sent to him, but it still seems like bad PR to me.

besides, meddling in politics of foreign state... not very smart thing to do for a CEO

Telling people why a product is more expensive (or, seems more expensive) is not "meddling in politics". He either tells them the reason, or he ignores the email. I'd prefer the former, personally.

Re: Steve Jobs Tells Germans to Blame Their Government for iPad Price Difference

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People in Europe usually have the VAT included in the advertised price, so I can see how people would be getting their hopes up when seeing the american prices.

this absolutely freaks us out in US - that we never see actual prices we're supposed to pay, only share of what seller is supposed to get (before paying her taxes).

As annoying as it can be I actually think its a good thing that the amount you're paying in taxes is listed separately because then you are forced to see what you're paying in taxes.

I live outside Chicago and in some areas around me the sales tax is >10% (10.25 in the city I believe). The fact that you see what your paying in taxes every time you buy something makes it harder for the politicians to raise it too high.

Edit: Fixed Typo

Re: Steve Jobs Tells Germans to Blame Their Government for iPad Price Difference

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EU governments sure do love their taxes.

US states sure do love theirs! down to every damn municipality. I hope Volcker will prevail and US will get VAT finally.

Sales tax in my municipality is less than half of UK's VAT, and food and clothing are exempt from it. You're right, I sure do love it.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

this absolutely freaks us out in US - that we never see actual prices we're supposed to pay, only share of what seller is supposed to get (before paying her taxes).

As annoying as it can be I actually think its a good thing that the amount you're paying in taxes is listed separately because then you are forced to see what you're paying in taxes. I live outside Chicago and in some areas around me the sales tax is >10% (10.25 in the city I believe). The fact that you see what your paying in taxes every time you buy something makes it harder for the politicians to raise it too high…

of course, it's so easy to raise tax when everyone knows it's at 18% across the country, not when nobody has any friggin idea what your municipality's tax is!

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US states sure do love theirs! down to every damn municipality. I hope Volcker will prevail and US will get VAT finally.

Sales tax in my municipality is less than half of UK's VAT, and food and clothing are exempt from it. You're right, I sure do love it.

Food and childrens clothing are also exempt from UK VAT.
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