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SpaceVim – Like Spacemacs, but for Vim

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Re: SpaceVim – Like Spacemacs, but for Vim

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Post by syl20bnr »

clhodapp wrote: post #132
arnarbi wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a clearer more understandable word? Your definition of 'distribution' sounds like something much more specific (changes to binaries?) than mine.

At risk of putting words in the another poster's mouth, I don't think the idea was that a distribution needs to have changes to binaries, just that it has to include the whole thing. I think the notion is that since you don't get your build of Emacs as part of Spacemacs, Spacemacs isn't a distribution of Emacs. I tend to agree. I think it could be a distribution of Emacs even if it were just upstream Emacs plus a sim…

More info on this here: https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs/blob/master/doc/FAQ.or...

Can found more explanations on reddit for the bravest :-)

Re: SpaceVim – Like Spacemacs, but for Vim

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Post by sctb »

xkxx wrote: post #34
scrollaway wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The presence of https prevents most mitm vectors. It doesn't prevent the far more likely scenario of the website in question being broken into and serving malware or backdoorware. Point is, don't run binaries you don't have some way of vetting. curl sh is no worse offender than "download link here".

> don't run binaries you don't have some way of vetting Thank you for your recommendations regarding operational security. We do really appreciate them.

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Re: SpaceVim – Like Spacemacs, but for Vim

#153

Post by banachtarski »

jasonm23 wrote: post #74
arnarbi wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a distribution, bundling vim with a whole bunch of plugins and configuration that's supposed to work out of the box. Spacemacs is the same for Emacs.

I wish people stopped calling a shared config a 'distribution' In both Spacemacs and Spacevim, all that's being provided is a config. No runtime, no package manager, no changes to the actual binaries of either app. It's hyperbole.

^ someone who hasn't used either (or at least, not more than a few minutes)

Re: SpaceVim – Like Spacemacs, but for Vim

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Post by desireco42 »

This is awesome, if there was one thing I saw in Emacs that I loved it, and no, it is not the famous OrgMode, it is this! Thank you.

For those who don't know what it is, it is showing possible keystrokes you can hit, which is super helpful when I was using new plugins and such.

Re: SpaceVim – Like Spacemacs, but for Vim

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Post by xkxx »

sctb wrote: post #152
xkxx wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> don't run binaries you don't have some way of vetting Thank you for your recommendations regarding operational security. We do really appreciate them.

Please comment civilly and substantively on Hacker News or not at all. https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

The comment I was replying to was not and is not substantive and informative at all. I wanted to communicate my displeasure to the comment's author, because I'm a mere human. Because I didn't have enough karma yet, I couldn't just downvote it and move on. (NH's policy regarding downvotes from new users encourages them to post unnecessary comments.) That's why I decided to notify the comment's author that his comment was very informative and interesting, even though it was not the case. It's called irony. Is irony uncivil? I don't think so. I do agree that my comment was not substantive, just like the comment I was replying to. That's why I kindly ask to delete that comment too, like you deleted mine. Of course, I expect my request to be most likely ignored, because I'm not some karma [redacted] like the person I was replying to. In fact, I hope I will never become a karma [redacted]. I hope I will always post anything I believe should be posted, regardless of my expectations of being upvoted or downvoted. Thanks for your attention.

Re: SpaceVim – Like Spacemacs, but for Vim

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Post by grzm »

xkxx wrote: post #155
sctb wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please comment civilly and substantively on Hacker News or not at all. https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

The comment I was replying to was not and is not substantive and informative at all. I wanted to communicate my displeasure to the comment's author, because I'm a mere human. Because I didn't have enough karma yet, I couldn't just downvote it and move on. (NH's policy regarding downvotes from new users encourages them to post unnecessary comments.) That's why I decided to notify the comment's author that his comment…

It's called irony. Is irony uncivil?

When criticizing someone, it's important to take even more care to be civil, and to do your best to ensure there's little chance of being misinterpreted. One can easily interpret what you consider irony to be snark, which is definitely uncivil.

In my opinion, if one is truly trying to be civil, the response here would be more along the lines of an apology for being unclear and misunderstood, rather than defending the action.

As for your comment being deleted, that was not the action of any single individual (and from my experience, definitely not a mod): it's the result of actions of a number of users in the community. Asking for others to take action on a particular comment—yours or otherwise—goes against HN guidelines.

Re: SpaceVim – Like Spacemacs, but for Vim

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Post by [deleted] »

xkxx wrote: post #155
sctb wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please comment civilly and substantively on Hacker News or not at all. https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

The comment I was replying to was not and is not substantive and informative at all. I wanted to communicate my displeasure to the comment's author, because I'm a mere human. Because I didn't have enough karma yet, I couldn't just downvote it and move on. (NH's policy regarding downvotes from new users encourages them to post unnecessary comments.) That's why I decided to notify the comment's author that his comment…

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Re: SpaceVim – Like Spacemacs, but for Vim

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Post by dang »

xkxx wrote: post #35

I think scrollaway is here to troll. No need to reply to him seriously. You may reply to him in a humorous manner or just scroll away from his comments, just like his nick recommends us to do.

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Re: SpaceVim – Like Spacemacs, but for Vim

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Post by yakubin »

gravypod wrote: post #93

All these "distrobutions" are going to do is further fragment the already extremely confusing terminal-text-editor world. There are so many configurations that it's never going to make sense to me. If it was simple, there'd be an answer to this question: how do I setup Vim/Emacs as a fully feature complete IDE for C, C++, Rust, Go, Java, JavaScript (Node or Web), C#? By feature complete I mean autocomplete, error det…

I like the fragmentation, because different people have different needs. E.g. I prefer a much more minimalistic setup than my colleagues who use IDEs like Eclipse. I've never been able to comfortably use an IDE. And not a single vim config I found on the internet was right for me.

That said, I think many would agree that for C/C++ YouCompleteMe is a must-have. It has ctags functionality (but without false positives), error detection, autocomplete... And probably lots of other features I'm ignorant of.

There is a semi-official vim plugin for go. I used to use it when I was playing with this language. Same for Rust. I don't know about other languages you've mentioned.

As for the "distributions". I prefer to configure everything myself, but I get it that others might want everything preconfigured for them.

PS. Yes, I'd agree that vim has insane defaults. All vim config files I saw have a common part, I think.

Re: SpaceVim – Like Spacemacs, but for Vim

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Post by xkxx »

grzm wrote: post #156
xkxx wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The comment I was replying to was not and is not substantive and informative at all. I wanted to communicate my displeasure to the comment's author, because I'm a mere human. Because I didn't have enough karma yet, I couldn't just downvote it and move on. (NH's policy regarding downvotes from new users encourages them to post unnecessary comments.) That's why I decided to notify the comment's author that his comment…

It's called irony. Is irony uncivil? When criticizing someone, it's important to take even more care to be civil, and to do your best to ensure there's little chance of being misinterpreted. One can easily interpret what you consider irony to be snark, which is definitely uncivil. In my opinion, if one is truly trying to be civil, the response here would be more along the lines of an apology for being unclear and mis…

> that was not the action of any single individual (and from my experience, definitely not a mod): it's the result of actions of a number of users in the community

Judging by how fast my comment above got deleted, it's definitely a mod or a group of mods. By "mod", I mean any privileged user. BTW, that comment was not uncivil and it was also substantive: I raised an important issue about the HN community. Yet it got deleted.

> the response here would be more along the lines of an apology for being unclear and misunderstood

I don't think there's any sense in apologizing when everything I say gets deleted.

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