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Heart Rhythm as Password (Apple Patent Application)

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Re: Heart Rhythm as Password (Apple Patent Application)

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why would it be better than say fingerprints ? Is it the fact that fingerprints, or retinal scan cannot be cheaply integrated into a mobile phone... while this can be?

No, it's because an evil person will cut off your finger in order to gain access. He can't rip out your beating heart and all the sanguine system so this is a much better biometric from a personal safety viewpoint.

or you can use a synthetic copy of an eyeball or finger.

for online or remote authentication all bio-metric identifiers are as bad as each other. you can simply "play back" a stolen signiture. if a human is present to observe then maybe it's a little harder. nevertheless, your signiture is effectively worthless if it does get stolen - and when it is you cannot change it.

I'm strongly of the opinion that bio-metric id is a disastrous concept. As well as the issue of having signitures stolen, such systems will evitably result in further erosion of privacy. Plus of course, with possibly the exception of your DNA, you change over time, meaning that, I beleive, such systems can never be that reliable.

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I suspect arrhythmias are commoner than you think. A large proportion of us will suffer from one at some point in our lives. Failure scenario: you're having a mild heart attack, but you can't call an ambulance because your phone doesn't recognize you! (If this biometric is routinely used as a password-substitute, what are the odds that by the time you really need it, you've forgotten the password you used when you se…

Easy enough: require that any computer using biometrics (of any kind, not just this one) also have the guest account enabled.

Now we're into patching design errors by applying work-arounds.

That always ends well.

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Absurd. Cardiac 'patterns' change over time, and altered with heart disease/dysfunction. Bio-medical based authentication must rely on non-changing biological characteristics. Gotta hand it to them for covering the bases, though.

Plus, it discriminates against the nonliving.

Not quite as ridiculous as it sounds, there are already issues with people getting access to digital information of deceased relatives (encrypted hard drives, social networking sites, email etc.).

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Does adrenaline really affect rhythm , or does it simply make your heart beat with the same rhythm, faster? I thought any change in heart rhythm was considered an arrhythmia.

I suspect arrhythmias are commoner than you think. A large proportion of us will suffer from one at some point in our lives. Failure scenario: you're having a mild heart attack, but you can't call an ambulance because your phone doesn't recognize you! (If this biometric is routinely used as a password-substitute, what are the odds that by the time you really need it, you've forgotten the password you used when you se…

Android phones already have an “emergency call only” option on the unlock screen. Now, a phone that self-diagnoses an emergency is heading into interesting territory…

Re: Heart Rhythm as Password (Apple Patent Application)

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Absurd. Cardiac 'patterns' change over time, and altered with heart disease/dysfunction. Bio-medical based authentication must rely on non-changing biological characteristics. Gotta hand it to them for covering the bases, though.

Plus, it discriminates against the nonliving.

Not just the nonliving, also the living with artificial hearts with no heartbeat:

http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/09/30/1348224/Artificia...

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Maybe it would work perfectly - until you were panicky and the adrenaline affected your heart rhythm. Like during that sales demo, or when calling 911.

Does adrenaline really affect rhythm , or does it simply make your heart beat with the same rhythm, faster? I thought any change in heart rhythm was considered an arrhythmia.

I don't know - but I'm not really 100% sure Apple knows, either.

Re: Heart Rhythm as Password (Apple Patent Application)

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I was thinking today about a mouse that could detect heart rate, in the same manner as a cardio machine detects it. I don't know why you would want to use it as a password, however it could be useful in biofeedback.

A real mouse or a computer mouse?
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