Sweden reveals results from pilot of 30-hour work week
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#2I imagine the optimal working day depends on the work one is doing. I used to work 8 hour shifts at Circuit City and leave with plenty of energy. But 8 hours of solid coding leaves me exhausted.
I'm more curious to see the results of Amazon's 30 hr work week because I believe that includes developers.
Re: Sweden reveals results from pilot of 30-hour work week
#3I imagine the optimal working day depends on the work one is doing. I used to work 8 hour shifts at Circuit City and leave with plenty of energy. But 8 hours of solid coding leaves me exhausted. I'm more curious to see the results of Amazon's 30 hr work week because I believe that includes developers.
I believe Amazons program was something like come to work from 10:00 to 14:00 Mon-Fri. The problem with this is that I think it's a lot easier to be pressured to stay longer over the course of a week than if you only worked 3 days a week.
Re: Sweden reveals results from pilot of 30-hour work week
#4I am under the impression that 6-hour days are widely adopted in France. Anyone know more of it?
Re: Sweden reveals results from pilot of 30-hour work week
#5I imagine the optimal working day depends on the work one is doing. I used to work 8 hour shifts at Circuit City and leave with plenty of energy. But 8 hours of solid coding leaves me exhausted. I'm more curious to see the results of Amazon's 30 hr work week because I believe that includes developers.
And truthfully, it is going to depend on the person to at least some extent as well.
IMO, anything that doesn't include being at work as part of your actual job duties should have no number of required work hours. You either get enough work done or you don't. If you aren't getting the expected amount of work done, then you'll eventually get fired. If you can out perform everyone else on the team and work 8 hours a week, so be it(just don't expect to get any brownie points when it comes raise time unless you put in more time).
Things like retail/food service are obviously things that require being at work certain hours so talking about shortening hours for that time of work is productive. For creative work/management/executive work though, I think we should move to a more flexible approach.
Re: Sweden reveals results from pilot of 30-hour work week
#6I imagine the optimal working day depends on the work one is doing. I used to work 8 hour shifts at Circuit City and leave with plenty of energy. But 8 hours of solid coding leaves me exhausted. I'm more curious to see the results of Amazon's 30 hr work week because I believe that includes developers.
I believe Amazons program was something like come to work from 10:00 to 14:00 Mon-Fri. The problem with this is that I think it's a lot easier to be pressured to stay longer over the course of a week than if you only worked 3 days a week.
This is why I like Google's version, where you can work on personal projects. You are still around if people need you, but you can work on other things as well rather than burning out trying to work on one thing for 40+ hours a week.
Re: Sweden reveals results from pilot of 30-hour work week
#7I am under the impression that 6-hour days are widely adopted in France. Anyone know more of it?
This is completely false. French workers (at mid-management level and above - not hourly workers) work long hours. Longer than German and Nordic countries, for example, where leaving at 5pm is the norm and leaving later is more a sign of poor work planning than of dedication.
I think workday hours are similar to American employees, but work less in the weekends and have more vacations.
Re: Sweden reveals results from pilot of 30-hour work week
#8I imagine the optimal working day depends on the work one is doing. I used to work 8 hour shifts at Circuit City and leave with plenty of energy. But 8 hours of solid coding leaves me exhausted. I'm more curious to see the results of Amazon's 30 hr work week because I believe that includes developers.
In the article though, the benefits to nurses weren't disputed. It was a success from a quality of life perspective. Costs were the issue.
Possible that costs might vary from role to role, but that's less satisfying if the goal is to improve life.
Re: Sweden reveals results from pilot of 30-hour work week
#9I imagine the optimal working day depends on the work one is doing. I used to work 8 hour shifts at Circuit City and leave with plenty of energy. But 8 hours of solid coding leaves me exhausted. I'm more curious to see the results of Amazon's 30 hr work week because I believe that includes developers.
That's interesting. 8 solid hours of coding leaves me wanting to go for a run or go out singing with my friends.
OTH, back when I was paining houses and hauling ladders around all day, I felt like sitting down in front of a computer for the rest of the evening after finally getting home.
Re: Sweden reveals results from pilot of 30-hour work week
#10I am under the impression that 6-hour days are widely adopted in France. Anyone know more of it?
It's essentially a myth [0]. According to the latest stats from the European Commission [1] the French work 40.4 hours/week on average (including paid/unpaid extra hours; excluding meal breaks and travel time), which is close to the EU average of 41.4 hours.
[0] http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20140312-frances-mythic-35-...
[1] http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/tgm/table.do?tab=table&init=1&l...