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Re: Lenovo ThinkPad T460 – A Good Linux Laptop for Development

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Post by Fnoord »

mahyarm wrote: post #324
Twirrim wrote: post #319

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>* Macbook takes relatively forever to come back from sleep; thinkpad is practically immediate. Waking up from sleep has been nice and fast in Linux for a while, but I have to say that regardless of all the frustrations I've found using OS X over the last year, waking from sleep isn't one of them. It has been nice and fast every time. >* Macbook wireless constantly has issues connecting, to the point of having to tur…

You can change your sleep mode to get rid of the hibernate restoration. I have to warn you although, your battery life of your sleeping laptop will go down: http://www.macworld.com/article/1053471/software/sleepmode.h...

Indeed, very useful. On Android I had similar issues and had to install a program called Wifi Prioritiser (or something akin to that as there's multiple solutions available). Unfortunately it has a slight impact on battery life.

Re: Lenovo ThinkPad T460 – A Good Linux Laptop for Development

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Post by andrepd »

sytelus wrote: post #373
andrepd wrote: post #322

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>Besides this, its very likely only laptop with 64GB option and 4K display with descret NVidia GPU with 4GB memory It's isn't. Clevo, MSI, Razer, all offer high-performance options in their high-end models. The Clevos and the MSI with these specs don't start at $4k, I might add :P

Link? I have only see this with 32GB RAM.

http://www.clevo.com.tw/clevo_prodetail.asp?id=983&lang=en

All of the DDR4 laptops by Clevo seem to support 64GB of RAM, as well as 4K screens and GTX 1060/70/80 discrete GPUs.

Re: Lenovo ThinkPad T460 – A Good Linux Laptop for Development

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Post by NikolaNovak »

driverdan wrote: post #259
NikolaNovak wrote: post #246

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I keep buying refurbished T420 laptops; even though my employer provided T450, I cannot switch to keyboard without standard Insert/Delete/Home/End set - not to mention losing the Ultrabay flexibility etc. T420 was the pinacle of the Thinkpads for me; T530 was a meh, T540 is the only time I've seen co-workers genuinely slam their laptops (removal of touchpad buttons etc). T450 brought touchpad buttons and some separat…

> I cannot switch to keyboard without standard Insert/Delete/Home/End set Learn the alternative shortcut keys. You can keep your hands closer to / on the home row instead of reaching across the keyboard. > not to mention losing the Ultrabay flexibility How often do you swap drives? I haven't used optical media for 5+ years.

- I have more than one keyboard and more than one computer/laptop:). The new thinkpads have non-standard home-row placement. All my external keyboards have standard home-row placement. If I ONLY used Thinkpads, I agree that getting used to their quirks would be viable (certainly explains the vehemence of certain brands;). However, the non-standard home-row patterns of new Thinkpads make them an unwelcome part of my ecosystem.

- I swap drives once or twice a month these days; used to do it more often. Main usage pattern was day/work and night/personal computer - by swapping the drive, my work "computer" had no personal stuff or data; my personal "computer" had no work stuff or data:). Secondary usage pattern is easy transfer of large amount of data - for example, I may have 300GB of photos to process for a wedding on one drive that I put in the ultrabay to process via Lightroom.

Re: Lenovo ThinkPad T460 – A Good Linux Laptop for Development

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Post by Twirrim »

JonnieCache wrote: post #321
Twirrim wrote: post #319

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>* Macbook takes relatively forever to come back from sleep; thinkpad is practically immediate. Waking up from sleep has been nice and fast in Linux for a while, but I have to say that regardless of all the frustrations I've found using OS X over the last year, waking from sleep isn't one of them. It has been nice and fast every time. >* Macbook wireless constantly has issues connecting, to the point of having to tur…

It has a user definable order of preference across all SSIDs which you can tweak in network preferences.

Sure. I'd rather it just went with the one with the strongest signal, however. I shouldn't need to juggle SSID priority order based on which room I happen to be in.

Re: Lenovo ThinkPad T460 – A Good Linux Laptop for Development

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Post by tuananh »

aiur3la wrote: post #22
tuananh wrote: post #13

despite so many problems that OP stated, he's still recommending it!

Different people have different needs. This laptop despite its minor flaws was in the end the best option for his particular needs ...or as a HN user said a while back: tuananh 42 days ago | parent [-] | on: Why the MacBook Pro Is Limited to 16GB of RAM all of this largely depends on personal preference. to me, i value battery so much more. :)

maybe it's just me.

it seems when people recommends stuff that has many flaws like this, it seems they set the standard pretty low and i find it hard to take the recommendation.

Re: Lenovo ThinkPad T460 – A Good Linux Laptop for Development

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Post by TheCowboy »

driverdan wrote: post #265
TheCowboy wrote: post #178

I bought a used W520, as it was one of the last Thinkpads with full/normal keyboard. I just can't get work down as quickly using modern island-style keyboards. I recommend it especially if you are still using an older Thinkpad. It's fast, supports up to 32gb of memory, 3 hard drives (regular, micro SATA, ultrabay), and has a good video card. I also find the touchpad with its mouse thumb buttons to be easier on my wri…

Have you considered using an external mech keyboard? There are a decent number of small ones: Pok3r, Planck, HHKB Pro 2, others.

This is just for mobile computing and being able to work in different places. I do have a mechanical for my desktop and like it, but I don't like being anchored to the same spot everyday.

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Post by yellowapple »

Capt-RogerOver wrote: post #351
yellowapple wrote: post #110

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And additionally a non-problem with the ThinkPad line, which is far less susceptible to this sort of tomfoolery.

Why would it be less susceptible? Isn't it the same company that makes them?

Yes, but the ThinkPads have a much bigger reputation on the line than the IdeaPads. Lenovo seems to know better than to annoy the businesses and power users that typically buy ThinkPads, whereas the IdeaPad-buying ordinary user is more tolerant of bloatware.

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Post by 2bluesc »

d0vs wrote: post #361
2bluesc wrote: post #65

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If you get the XPS and plan on Linux, plan to buy the Intel 7260 2x2 WiFi card. I tried the Dell DW1830 3x3 Broadcom WiFi and the driver support is rough for both WiFi and Bluetooth.

I had the 7260 but for some reason it was slow and was always dropping the connection. Happy with the 8260 now.

Oops, I meant 8260. That's what I'm using.

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Post by michaelmior »

lucaspiller wrote: post #309
michaelmior wrote: post #275

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Being a current Linux and former macOS user, I actually miss Homebrew sometimes. It's much easier to get recent versions of software and also easier to set up your own repository (tap).

This is one of the reasons why Arch is so popular, AUR + a client has a very similar feeling to Homebrew.

Huh. Didn't know. Perhaps I should take a look at Arch more seriously :)

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Post by endgame »

cryptarch wrote: post #148
endgame wrote: post #119

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Thank you, but it doesn't ship outside the US. Are you aware of any other decent libreboot machines, even if they can't be liberated end-to-end?

I'm afraid I don't know of any premade options. I've been considering building my own and have recently dropped out to start working for myself; I'm thinking, perhaps I could build one for you? It'd depend on how soon you need it and to what spec, as I'll have to source it from scratch. If you leave some means of contacting you I will, I'm quite interested in building these things for another purpose than "I like hav…

I'm passively looking for a machine at the moment but not really actively looking yet - this one's still got a fair amount of life in it. If you want to reach me, the email in my profile works.

Are you planning to do a libre hardware startup or something?

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